Thread: Yuppie's DEILD guide - The easiest way to lucid dream.

Originally Posted by CosmicMember44

Well CHILLEN AU you dont have to not move or open your eyes all the time dont make it a bad habbit.
Its more important to be calm and relaxed, to consider the way you wish to transition.

But do it help to relax your body somehow by doing that?
Im gonna test it out but hopefully my blanket wont fall down.

You're right.

Been getting a bit frustrated. I've been struggling over the passed few days of staying still. Gotta stay positive

What do you mean by your blanket? Do cover your window to keep the light out of your room or something?

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

Have you tried using mantras before Tiresias?

I would suggest something on the lines of ''I awaken after every REM cycle''

Tried this last night with the simple mantra "I will wake up after my dreams." I remember waking up three times, and I remembered three dreams vividly last night. Gonna try this a bunch more.

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Tried this last night with the simple mantra "I will wake up after my dreams." I remember waking up three times, and I remembered three dreams vividly last night. Gonna try this a bunch more.

Congratulations!

It seemed to work for you the way you said your mantra, but it may work better if you say it differently.
When you write I "will", it isn't convincing the subconscious properly, where as saying "I wake up after every dream", it convinces your mind that you do in fact wake up after every dream.

I too use to say I "will" in my mantras and it worked fine, but I changed it, to make sure im getting the maximum effect from a mantra.

It's up too you, maybe experiment without the "will" and see if you get better/worse results.

Again, congratulations on the mantra success

Well i sleep with only my blanket since its too hot if i where to put something inside the blanket (cant figure out what you call it).

Anyway it might fall off the bed when i plan to roll over since its then very light.
It has nothingbto do with the light outside just the weight of the blanket soccumbs to mine and fall to the floor.

But can i ask?
CHILLEN AU and fogelbise do you usually wake up at the end of your drems?
Because you have to wake before your rem ends no? How do you perceive your awakenings?
Or did i already ask this questione?

Originally Posted by CosmicMember44

But can i ask?
CHILLEN AU and fogelbise do you usually wake up at the end of your drems?
Because you have to wake before your rem ends no? How do you perceive your awakenings?
Or did i already ask this questione?

I'm not sure, Cosmic. I wake up randomly and wake up to alarms through out the night, to give me extra attempts at DEILD technique. I'm not sure if I wake and realise after my dreams.

Not 100% on the REM ending question. I think your right. I'm still a novice to lucid dreaming. Just started reading Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming - Stephen LaBerge.


How do I perceive my awakenings. Not sure what you mean.

Well it must feel nice to have your first deild all cleared up.
that way you should know more easily what works best or better than something else.

Originally Posted by CosmicMember44

But can i ask?
CHILLEN AU and fogelbise do you usually wake up at the end of your drems?
Because you have to wake before your rem ends no? How do you perceive your awakenings?
Or did i already ask this questione?

Well I don't try to wake up after every dream because of this:

Originally Posted by woblybil

Ditto.. A simple mantra otter do it but be careful what you wish for, Now I wake after every dream and wish I didnt.
The only way I can sleep more than 90 minutes nowadays is by using some drug with a name I can't pronounce...

BrandonBoss is very good at waking up after each dream and/or REM cycle I believe. He might be a better person to ask.

For me, I wake up after some dreams and it is kind of like that feeling where you wake up after a good dream or wake up thinking about a dream that really stuck in my mind. Or, when you have a lucid dream and realize that you're waking up sometimes you can re-enter the dream. I think you still have to be in an REM cycle, but I'm not sure of the technicals.

Originally Posted by CosmicMember44

Well it must feel nice to have your first deild all cleared up.
that way you should know more easily what works best or better than something else.

It's great to know that I can DEILD, but it does get frustrating when you DEILD twice in 3 days, and then none for 6 days.

Recall isn't as good at the moment because I'm trying to DEILD every time I awaken, and trying to fall back asleep if its unsuccessful. It's bothering me a bit, so I might just try not moving or opening my eyes just for recall purposes. Maybe I'll get DEILDS this way too

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

so I might just try not moving or opening my eyes just for recall purposes. Maybe I'll get DEILDS this way too

I have found I cannot have both recall and DEILD unless I can coddle whats left of my confused mind into continuing the previous dream with DEILD and then recalling both.....

Originally Posted by woblybil

I have found I cannot have both recall and DEILD unless I can coddle whats left of my confused mind into continuing the previous dream with DEILD and then recalling both.....

I will let you know how I go

woblybil, I see what you mean. Its harder to DEILD and remember the previous dream, but! it came to me later on after my 3rd successful DEILD.
Another way I could use it, is as soon as I awaken, try remember my dream, then DEILD (If that fails) at least I have a dream written down. Win Win.

Here's my DEILD I had this morning. I tried something different this morning (Sleep breathing/Deep Breathing), which may help some of you that are looking to DEILD and still haven't achieved one yet. Check it out!

3rd Successful DEILD - Dream Journals

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

woblybil, I see what you mean. Its harder to DEILD and remember the previous dream, but! it came to me later on after my 3rd successful DEILD.
Another way I could use it, is as soon as I awaken, try remember my dream, then DEILD (If that fails) at least I have a dream written down. Win Win.

Here's my DEILD I had this morning. I tried something different this morning (Sleep breathing/Deep Breathing), which may help some of you that are looking to DEILD and still haven't achieved one yet. Check it out!

3rd Successful DEILD - Dream Journals

Nice work persevering & success! Can you tell us more about how you use sleep breathing and deep breathing to help you along?

Originally Posted by fogelbise

Nice work persevering & success! Can you tell us more about how you use sleep breathing and deep breathing to help you along?

Thanks fogelbise.

I'm not 100% if my breathing was kind of on autopilot and I was tricked into thinking I was actually doing it intentionally, but I'm pretty certain I was controlling it.
All I really did was breath in more then normal and push out with a bit of force, not over doing it, but forceful. I think I did this from the start of when I attempted to DEILD, which brought on little sensations/vibrations. Then a scene in the distance appeared, as if I was looking through a tunnel, with light at the end of it. I think the scene got lost, so I continued with the breathing (I think I started breathing with a bit more force, as I was desperate for the scene to re-appear. Not sure if the extra force was needed, but it worked anyway) and the scene re-appeared to a full blown dream scene. I then got up out of bed, and done. I was lucid.

All up this took what felt like under 1 min easily. I'll continue with this breathing to see if it's a method that works for me.

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

woblybil, I see what you mean. Its harder to DEILD and remember the previous dream, but! it came to me later on after my 3rd successful DEILD.
Another way I could use it, is as soon as I awaken, try remember my dream, then DEILD (If that fails) at least I have a dream written down. Win Win.

Here's my DEILD I had this morning. I tried something different this morning (Sleep breathing/Deep Breathing), which may help some of you that are looking to DEILD and still haven't achieved one yet. Check it out!

3rd Successful DEILD - Dream Journals

If you vaguely remember the previous dream and just continue it in DEILD and then record the whole works youre on a roll here,

Hey everyone.
I apologise for the somewhat late reply, I've been tremendously busy recently.
Although, I always make a point towards checking the thread at least every two days.
Thanks a lot, and best of luck to everyone.

To DILD you have to wake up in the middle of a dream. It is possible to do this in a regular basis? I tryied and most of the times I can't wake up from the dream, it's just void.

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

Thanks fogelbise.

I'm not 100% if my breathing was kind of on autopilot and I was tricked into thinking I was actually doing it intentionally, but I'm pretty certain I was controlling it.
All I really did was breath in more then normal and push out with a bit of force, not over doing it, but forceful. I think I did this from the start of when I attempted to DEILD, which brought on little sensations/vibrations. Then a scene in the distance appeared, as if I was looking through a tunnel, with light at the end of it. I think the scene got lost, so I continued with the breathing (I think I started breathing with a bit more force, as I was desperate for the scene to re-appear. Not sure if the extra force was needed, but it worked anyway) and the scene re-appeared to a full blown dream scene. I then got up out of bed, and done. I was lucid.

All up this took what felt like under 1 min easily. I'll continue with this breathing to see if it's a method that works for me.

Yes, please keep us posted. By the way, after reading your post and thinking about DEILDs a lot before going to sleep I tried it last night and also did consciously change my breathing and vibrations started almost instantly and I chained together 2 DEILDs during two different little awakenings. I don't know if they would have worked without thinking about my breathing but I am hoping you're on to something! I think it helps that I started with a DILD so my consciousness was already activated more than usual when I woke up and tried.

To user "Thinknow" did you mean DEILD?

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

I'm not 100% if my breathing was kind of on autopilot and I was tricked into thinking I was actually doing it intentionally, but I'm pretty certain I was controlling it.
All I really did was breath in more then normal and push out with a bit of force, not over doing it, but forceful..

This kind of sleep breathing is an almost forgotten trick I used to use to speed up my body going to sleep in WILD attempts and it did work..I never thought about applying it to DEILD to get my body back asleep while keeping my mind awake... Not bad-Not a bad idea at all
Thanks guys

Originally Posted by fogelbise

Yes, please keep us posted. By the way, after reading your post and thinking about DEILDs a lot before going to sleep I tried it last night and also did consciously change my breathing and vibrations started almost instantly and I chained together 2 DEILDs during two different little awakenings. I don't know if they would have worked without thinking about my breathing but I am hoping you're on to something! I think it helps that I started with a DILD so my consciousness was already activated more than usual when I woke up and tried

Congratulations! That's unreal news. Hopefully it's something that works for you often

I was too groggy this morning, and didn't get the chance to try out DEILD with the breathing. I will keep at it, and see how things go.

Let us know how things go fogelbise, looks promising.

Originally Posted by woblybil

This kind of sleep breathing is an almost forgotten trick I used to use to speed up my body going to sleep in WILD attempts and it did work..I never thought about applying it to DEILD to get my body back asleep while keeping my mind awake... Not bad-Not a bad idea at all
Thanks guys

You're right there woblybil, It doesn't get thrown around here often.

Good luck with it mate, hopefully you can add it to your arsenal of tricks

Originally Posted by Thinknow

To DILD you have to wake up in the middle of a dream. It is possible to do this in a regular basis? I tryied and most of the times I can't wake up from the dream, it's just void.

Do you mean DILD or DEILD?
Also, what do you mean by 'wake up?'
Realise you're dreaming, or physically wake up?

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

Do you mean DILD or DEILD?
Also, what do you mean by 'wake up?'
Realise you're dreaming, or physically wake up?

I meant DEILD, sorry, I made a mistake while writing. Really wake up.

We can consistently wake up from a dream using an alarm ?
Or we have to set the alarm to several times and hope we can do it right?

Of course we could use MILD/mantras/set intentions (etc) to natural wake up in the middle of dreams (it is possible right?), but my question is especifically about the alarm and consistency.

Thank you

Originally Posted by fogelbise

Yes, please keep us posted. By the way, after reading your post and thinking about DEILDs a lot before going to sleep I tried it last night and also did consciously change my breathing and vibrations started almost instantly and I chained together 2 DEILDs during two different little awakenings. I don't know if they would have worked without thinking about my breathing but I am hoping you're on to something! I think it helps that I started with a DILD so my consciousness was already activated more than usual when I woke up and tried.

To user "Thinknow" did you mean DEILD?

Yes, sorry ^^

Originally Posted by Thinknow

To DILD you have to wake up in the middle of a dream. It is possible to do this in a regular basis? I tryied and most of the times I can't wake up from the dream, it's just void.

I am not well versed on DEILDs yet, but I would say that you do not have to wake up "in the middle" of a dream...the way it has worked for me is waking up at what feels like the end or fading of an interesting non-lucid or a lucid dream(which are always interesting)...basically, upon exiting the dream. After an interesting regular dream or after a lucid is probably the easiest way but there are other ways through practice apparently. From other people's accounts it can be done on a "regular" basis. By "it's just void," do you mean your memory of the dream is void? And if you are trying to wake up from the dream, do you mean during the dream you are trying to wake up and that you are aware that you are dreaming while dreaming (lucid)?

Chillen, I will let you know when I try it again. I didn't try to do anything but get a good night's sleep last night.

It's Yuppie's thread so I'll let him tell it his way but just for shits and giggles here's mine.....
"DEILD" Dream EXIT Induced Lucid Dream...Every living thing with a brain dreams (and maybe even some plants in Australia )
And everyone knows he's dreaming just at the EXIT instant that he starts to wake up if he recalls the dream at all..
This lucid second is the key if you can just retain this lucidity thru going back to sleep, If you don't wake completely up so much the better, Your'e still lucid dreaming ...However we get there the result is the same..
It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to DEILD and thus Yuppie's claim to "The easiest way to lucid dream".....