Just reverse the mantra if you don't like the effects.
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Edited to remove useless opinionated strawman blather - nobody suggested 'pouring loads of water into yourself and expecting magic'. So, to translate into something non-spiteful that might actually be helpful to somebody, you're saying that drinking water is a good way to start but then you can move on to auto suggestion? :cheeky:
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Zaktly, Whatever works for you of course is best.
In the beginning I found waking up to pee worked real good then I perfected auto suggestion to where I didnt need it anymore and was having a good lucid or non every 90 minutes and waking up without trying and after about a week of that I was ready for the junkyard !
So then I used a bigol gulp of Nyquil to sleep thru and break the spell.
Yes, You can get too much of a good thing.....
Ok fair enough. :lol: It does work for me, but then so does setting my intention by writing it in my DJ or just thinking to myself before falling alseep that I will wake up after each dream. Not sure if that qualifies as auto suggestion?
Thanks for the reverse blinking technique MrOMG.
Regarding the drinking water before bed, I've tried it a couple of times before and whenever I wake up I always end up going to the bathroom, so for this technique I'll decide against it as it requires you to stay still.
It seems we were getting off topic anyways. I wouldnt suggest drinking water as a way to DEILD either :P
Lol maybe I have some kind of superhuman bladder control - I can do it no problem!
MrOmgWtf - Just try to remain respectful, what works for others, may not work for you.
I mean, the majority of the people in this thread find that DEILD is an extremely effective method, but other lucid dreamers won't.
I personally, can vouch for the water method. At the very least, it leaves you feeling calm and content.
Especially when the technique is being employed in conjunction with any attempt of inducing a lucid dream that operates on a time interval.
I agree with drinking water, for me it works very well and it makes sense too because our brain doesn't get used to the feeling of an uncomfortable bladder.
It also channels into focusing, it's something that your brain pays attention and concern to, which in turn results in heightened awareness.
Being hydrated is just a huge advantage overall as well :)
Hey, yuppie, I just stopped by to say I like your tutorial.
I love DEILDs for the intense transitions and the fact, that you can chain them. My best chain was a DILD+5 DEILDs. The only way I can DEILD is from a LD. I'm hoping I will get more used to the "you are in a dream" feeling and be able to DEILD from any regular dream.
RE: Water
Of course you don't drink a ton of water. Just a small drink, that wakes you up 3-4 hrs after going to bed.
May not be best for DEILD, but it can work. It wakes you up naturaly and if it's not so urgent, you can DEILD and go potty after your lucid. And if you wake up and DEILD doesn't happen, you can try WBTB and WILD, or just write down your dream.
And as someone mentioned here, it can get you used to waking up naturally so after a while you may not need to drink water at all to wake up and have a better chance at DEILD.
May not work for everybody, but it's a good alternative to waking up to an alarm, if time of waking up is not crucial. It helped me with dream recall greatly.
good luck to all:alien:
Cheers Gab! That means a lot :)
I whole heartedly agree that DEILD provides a very vivid aspect of lucid dreaming.
By way of the transitional stage, it really promotes your awareness which translates to this really surreal sense of certainty and lucidness.
It's just a great technique overall; fast, efficient, consistent, and fun! :)
About time someone showed up here, I was going to bump it just to wake Yuppie up if he's not still up down under..
Never know when they sleep in Australia.......
I dont need to worry about waking up anymore either, But I did start by drinking water.I just wake up every 90 minutes so regular now I sometimes wish I didnt. I never knew about DEILD until I hit on this, If 90 minutes comes before the end of the story in a non-lucid its easy to finish up the story in a DEILD, I used to just lose it :P
Best of both worlds Bill :P
Man, I've never understood the time zone's in America either!
I think we're like, almost opposite. Like, you're night time is our day time, vice versa.
Anyway, how's DEILD-ing going for everyone? :)
Haven't heard a report in quiet a while :D
There's no such thing as time, Its a figment, Without man it does not exist. The best I can figure is your'e at about eight hours ago tomorrie :P
Stress has my dreams all messed up so about the only fun right now is DEILD and this morning that didnt work either just because I woke up to a stoopid alarm to go out in a blizzard to see a doctor so I can get sick,
Stress seems to play a big part in any kind of dreams for me anyways.
I'm still having the same problem, I just can't seem to realise that I awake after every dream. Whenever I try a mantra it never seems to work, even the simple mantra for remembering dreams has seemed to be failing me as my recall has started to fall.
Off for one day!
Going to see Blink 182 live! FUCK YEAH :D
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I have continued using this technique with consistent results, although I am struggling to make the dreams vivid. However, I'm sure that's purely down to my inexperience and with some practice at stabilising, I'll be having top-class vivid as fuck LD's in no time. The main thing is I'm still getting lucid fairly easily. I've seen a few people saying they are finding difficulty in realising they have just awoken from a dream - I have never had a problem with this. My only problem is resisting the temptation to just shut my brain off and go return to sleep rather than trying to concentrate on getting lucid!
so lets say you set an alarm 90 minutes after you fall asleep and then do this method and then get a lucid dream, could you set another alarm 180 minutes after you fall asleep repeat the method and have another ld? becuase arent your sleep cycles every 90 minutes? so could this end up getting you a few LD everynight? or am i completely wrong
You're right, azroller, except once you have your first order even that night, you will be aware when you wake up, so it's easy to chain another DEILD on, and a second alarm might disrupt that. Also, if you are going to use alarms, you'll need one that will stop quickly on it's own without you moving, because it's hard to DEILD if you move.
Duke - I roll that way too, man. I've always been more inclined to just go to sleep, rather than had problems with getting to sleep.
Naturally, I'm a pretty sound sleeper; so it just went that way for me. I'd probably rather be this way anyway, having difficulty getting to sleep would definitely cramp your DEILD's. It's an incredibly resilient technique, it'd just be inconvenient :)
Azroller - Kind of bro, just be cautious when you're incorporating alarms into your attempts.
It may result in disaster. :P
Yep wouldn't want to be flying in a LD then just fall and die cause my alarm went off, thanks for the guide!