Thread: Yuppie's DEILD guide - The easiest way to lucid dream.

I had a question pertaining to this method. It's mentioned that when you start LD you should have a dream journal to right it down, but it seems this method you need to stay still to "reenter the dream" so you wouldn't get a chance to right anything down? Or is it something you remember the whole time and are still able to write down when you eventually wake up?

Houstonderk - If you read the guide, it's specifically mentioned that it's immensely useful to have your dream recall up to scratch before commencing DEILD.
Once you're capable of recalling your dreams when you wake up for the final time, you can just jot them all down when you get up.
If you ever need to work on your recall again, you can simply cease DEILD attempts for a few days, while you regain your memory.
However, generally speaking, once you have it, it can be easily maintained.

I prepared my mantra word by word, to be most effective. This is just a lame translation of it.

Could you elaborate, please?
I don't quite understand you

You said:

Make your mantra's as conscience and succinct as possible (...)

What I mean, is that my mantra is in another language, I was designing it word by word to be as effective as possible. What I posted was a bad translation of it.

Just had a momentary lucid from this. (I lost it as soon as I opened my eyes and explained things away!)

Here's the account: Lucid Dream 20 - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Pretty neat method, it's amazing how quickly it works.

Well, regardless of your situation, the advice still stands.
I'm sorry, but there was absolutely no way I could have known you were translating a mantra from another language.

Venryx - I read the whole account, that's really cool!
I feel for you on the Ipad situation, but I'm sure it's something you'll look back on and laugh at!
We've all had moments like that, I've had dreams about BEING on Dreamviews. T_T
It's a great learning experience, once you make a few mistakes like that, they gradually begin to disappear.
Also, in your conclusion, I can see you're growing fond of DEILD.

Hmmm, I thought maybe it was a dead spot in my computer, Anybody ?
I have been preoccupied with stuff and even while listening to sleep music I have numbers running thru my head when I fall asleep and wake up the same way and expect that to continue for a few more days but I didnt think it rubbed off on everybody else

Nice technique, seems to be fairly simple. Would you recommend it to someone who hasn't had lucid dream before? And regarding the first optional step, I'm pretty sure I would be able to keep my eyes closed and stay still after waking up, but I'm not too sure I'd be able to wake up after every dream as whenever I use mantras, they rarely seem to work.

DEILD'ing has been a butt lately, I do it a lot and its really the most vivid of them all but always It begins somewhere in my apt with me still in bed or setting on something, I see the computer which is in the other room and can use it with mind control I guess what with the missing icons and mystic/cryptic writing and I have gone so far as to pick up my recorder and record what I'm seeing just to find later I didnt record anything but I cant seem to get out of there or even get up and walk around, Maybe next time if I remember I'll try to just levitate or something.

Santoryu - I whole heartedly recommend DEILD for beginners!
As you said yourself, it's an incredibly simplistic technique
The matter isn't whether you 'wake up' after every dream, it's whether you realise you wake up after every dream. Whether you like it or not, it's just the way humans are wired. As I've mentioned numerous times, your brain has simply trained your body to disregard the awakenings you experience every night, simply because they're not considered important. It's such a frequent event, your body couldn't care less. I definitely condone the use of mantra's, even though you're not too confident with them. Give them a shot, you'll be surprised. If not, we'll work it out from there!
I suggest you just jump right into it, and don't overthink it. Be sure to tell me how you go!
Best of luck man.

Bill - That's great to hear, brother.
You sound like you're doing super well.
I'm not sure if you've heard through the media coverage in America, but Australia has had some really bad flooding and weather.
Best thing is, school has been cancelled tomorrow! Yes!
First time I've ever seen school cancelled

Yuppie, I know how worries about Cars, Money, School etc affect my dreaming and I suspicion it does with everyone else too, Hope it dont wash you away

Thanks man
I'm only fifteen, so there aren't too many worries about cars, etc.
First day at school today was good, at least. Pretty boring!

Today when I woke up, I didn't move and open my eyes.
I was imagining the last scene from my dream, I had really weird sensations, like being sucked into something, loud noise I cannot remember, seeing something like a blurred fast road, my arms/legs moving, lol.
But they were fadding off pretty quickly. Every time I thought about the dream, I was getting these sensations again. I couldn't get into the dream, though. Maybe that's because it was morning and I couldn't get REM anymore?

Well, it actually kinda felt like I was in a dream, I felt being in a dream at 50%, but it was fading off. Weird.
How to practice to wake up motionless? I was repeating my mantra for like few days, and I stopped repeating it, but the effect is still working. I'm waking up few times a night, but I move

I wont have to worry long, Were forecast for -25 next month with howling winds and Lake effect snows when nobody is doing anything but staying home dreaming But for now getting ready for it sucks any dreams up like a whirlwind. I still dream but my recall has gone right out the window here, Rattz

MrOMG - Remain persistent with your mantra's.
If NOT, you should know that it's not vital that you remain perfectly motionless.
There's not much to be said, man.
Please tell me how it goes.

Bill - I love cold weather! I just pile myself under three blankets, and go to sleep.
I agree it stuffs up dreams though, I feel like being smothered by heat can have a negative impact on your dreams.
You know what to do about your recall brother, focus on it!

This mantra starts to be crazy... I stopped repeating it but I wake up like 5 times a night..

The more the better?
A multitude of opportunities for you to attempt DEILD?
What's the problem? :C

Well it's not that big problem, but first, I can't stay motionless after waking up, only if I get lucky. And second, it's easy to get back to sleep, but the night feels like it'll never end

Yuppie, I'm having a problem realising when I wake up after my dreams. I've tried saying a mantra something along the lines of "I realise I'm awake after every dream" but it doesn't seem to work for me.

Originally Posted by Santoryu

Yuppie, I'm having a problem realising when I wake up after my dreams. I've tried saying a mantra something along the lines of "I realise I'm awake after every dream" but it doesn't seem to work for me.

My suggestion is to get some nice theta binaural beats, listen to them, and after you feel extremely relaxed, just repeat the mantra few times. Not too much, because your brain is much more open to suggestions in theta brain waves.

I've made some high quality ones, they work great, I can send you them if you want?
They are 20 minutes, but when you listen to them, you feel so great you don't even want to think...

That's quite strange, Santoryu.
Please remain persistent with your mantra's, and ensure you're really genuine in your repetitious requests.
Make sure that you're legitimately confident in your ability to do this!
May I suggest you change your mantra to "I am aware when I awake"?
Give this a shot, for a few more days. If it doesn't work, we'll figure it out from there.
Tell me how it goes, bro!

You could always try that
I've never had any success with binaural beats, but who knows?
There's no harm in trying!

I had two lucid dreams last night, and somewhat of a DEILD (I'm gonna count it) . I had woken up earlier that night with a sore throat, so I got up and went and got some water, and ate a bit of honey (which really helped), and then I went back to bed. Before I went to sleep I did SSILD. I had three other dreams before, and then one more where I was in a land like you might find in a Dr Seuss book, with a bit of realism. It was lush and beautiful, and I was up on top of these massive cliffs with a few friends, looking down upon a harbor with a boat and a deep blue sea. One of my friends could shape shift though, and she jumped off and changed into some type of bird, and then I was inspired to jump off, so I just jumped into the water. It felt real as I was falling though, very exhilarating, and then I hit the water and sunk down. As I slowed down, I became more aware of the dream atmosphere, and realized I was dreaming.

I felt myself waking up, so I decided to DEILD. I had been reading other DEILD tutorials and experiences, so I decided to try out something that I had seen a couple times. Instead of just visualizing, I actually moved as if I was in a dream. The first thought that came to my mind was when I saw a few eagles earlier in that dream, so I started 'moving' my arms like I was moving a pair of wings . Suddenly, it actually felt like I was moving a pair of wings, instead of just imagining it, and it felt like I went into a dive. Then, I felt myself waking up again, but I didn't actually wake up, but I woke up in a dream (non-lucid). As I leaned over to my bedside table, I saw the word state, and a voice whispered 'state', and I thought 'maybe it's trying to tell me that I am dreaming, so I did a reality check and sure enough I was dreaming. As I stood up though to stabilize the dream, my vision blurred, and I woke up, so maybe I DEILDed right at the end of a REM cycle.

You may say that since I wasn't lucid immediately after the DEILD it wasn't a DEILD, but just a DILD, but I'm going to say DEILD because I woke up and then transferred into another dream and became lucid after . I have a good feeling about this month now, and I'm excited for the lucid dreams to come

I think we can count that as a DEILD.
That's an interesting idea, it sounds like it worked well for you!
I'm glad you caught yourself dreaming when you performed a reality check
One of the most frustrating things, can be 'waking up' and not realising you're in a dream. >.<
Anyway, I'm really happy for you man, you've come a long way, it's excellent what you've achieved.
Digging your new profile picture by the way.