Competition Sign Up Thread #16

[StaySharp]

Edit off topic: StaySharp - what does suck so much about living in Germany? I would be hard pressed to choose somewhere else to live at the moment - well - the weather could be nicer, but otherwise - could be much, much worse. Where would you like to live? Spoiler for Offtopic Blast: Well there are a lot worse places but those are mostly places without better choices or america. Germany has a few certain things that damn hard bother me, and that's why I'd like to live elsewhere. 1: GEZ/Zwangsbeitrag - Stealing more than 200€ from me a year for low class tv, bad information, recycled videos and movies. I really, really never use any of their services anyway. Actually the Zwangsbeitrag violates the german constition and witht that my basic rights right from article 1 to 5 and should be outright illegal, but politicians do what they want and people always vote the same ones anyway, whether they screwed up or not. Our country is as far as I know currently the highest paying country there, and that for services you get better and for free on the internet every minute of your life. Here I'm paying the luxury of a huge company while I'm not even sure how I'm gonna get over the next months. 2: Medicine laws - Our law says we may not import pharmacological effective subtances, just as vague as that. Now let me put this short, this basically means they could prevent you from importing anything you could swallow just so as long as it is deemed to have any effect appart from filling your belly. Even if you want to nurture your plants with that. The only reason food doesn't fall under this is apparently because there's a list for food considered things. But there's no list for restricted things, people may just decide to confiscate your stuff one time and next time someone else may check it and say that everythings fine, they're a totally disorganized bunch. Now when you wonder why that's so bad, here's the reason: It's controlled by our pharmacies, they shut germany off from the rest of the world to gain a monopol on what they sell. Something that in this size would be considered illegal for any other kind of competition interference. Again it's only this bad for germany. 3: Shortsighted voters - This year the AfD participated for the first time and they nearly took the 5% hurdle because they wanted to get rid of the euro in favour of the old german mark. Great idea, considering that the impact on our economy could dump is into a huge crisis, not to mention seperate us somewhat from the rest of the EU. And that gets them nearly into the parlament. Seriously? But people don't care about: -Starving people -Climate crisis -Cleaner energy (well okay, they do care a bit, but they always fall asleep on this topic unless some nuclear power plant blows up somewhere in the world once every few year) -Privacy I don't want to get too political but this doesn't bode well for a clean und peaceful future. 4: Schools - Our schools outright suck, and I've been to 8 different schools: -2 Grundschulen [primary schools] -1 Internats Gymnasium [boarding grammar school] -1 Normales Gymnasium [grammar school] -2 Hauptschulen [secondary modern schools] -2 Berufskollegs [vocational colleges] The best and only somewhat good school was that boarding school. It got closed because of MONEY and nothing else. The last vocational college where I'm currently is ok, it's parallel to an apprenticeship and I'm there one in three weeks, each week we get our things to do and then it's mostly up to us, no frontal teaching. I spend: ~10% of my time on doing the actual things I'm supposed to do, my grades are between 3 and 1 depending on the topic ~30% of my time on learning things which are totally unrelated to my job or even to that school in general (quantum physics, yay ) ~60% of my time slacking off and playing around And still do I learn more than in any school ever before. In short: our schools are so bad for certain individuals that I can say for myself it was a waste of time to go to school, the only really good one was that boarding school, it was called Talenta and was located in Eringerfeld. That school was also the only one that contributed to my development as a person, I consider the other schools I was on a complete waste of my time and if I would've spent all these years learning by myself I'd be on a different level than I'm now. I skipped a class but thanks to Talenta being closed I also was set back one, becuase the other schools had a totally shifted learning schedule. I remember that normal grammer school right after Talenta, it was the 9th class, our first lesson in chemical stuff and the teacher asked what an oxidation process is. No one had a clue, I felt like I arrived at a wrong world and I was years further than everyone in my class together. These are just the strongest points I currently know of, that's not even everything. I know there are a lot of worse places but there are better places as well. If some people had their priorities straight germany could also become a wonderful place, but it isn't and we are most certainly going down the wrong route as well. As for where I'd like to live otherwise then... Japan: While I like some of the japanese traits and especially their landscape, their police is just corrupt and stupid, and the common people also have certain behaviour traits which are not so cool. I definitely want to visit it sometime but I wouldn't want to live there, not yet. America: No. Even worse than germany in many ways. Ireland: This one I could imagine, I was there for a month during my time at the first vocational college. I had a great time, the people were nice and there wasn't anything else being bad either. It also has some bad points but so far I don't know of anything as bad as the things mentioned above. England: I don't know, there are things that are better there but it also has some weak points, I would have to seriously consider moving out first and take a look into england. Switzerland: Same as above Canada: Same as above, and while I like cold more than hot I'm not quite sure if I'd like it there in terms of weather. All other possibilities are currently outruled by language. (There could be some errors in here, I just got a message to head out fast, so... finders keepers) Depending on when this thing'll start it coud fall into my holidays, when I'm with my father back in my old home. Could be an advantage, but maybe not, we'll see.

[VagalTone]

Hi Scionox ! Lower league please Thanks

[bemistaken]

Hi Scionox, Sign me up for the ahem, lower league please. Let's see how this goes...

[fogelbise]

It seems like we have good numbers already and we could have a great turnout for this competition! I just wanted to make a quick note, not to any particular person participating, but to everyone. I think it is very difficult to figure out if you should be in the upper or lower league if you haven't participated before. If you are fairly good you might think that the upper league is only for those that can LD on demand and might be LDing every night of the competition and thus look towards the lower league. Looking at the last competition, this is clearly not the case and myself who I consider at an intermediate level would have looked like an ass in the lower division. Perhaps Scionox can clarify if I am wrong, but my opinion is that the lower league is more for people who would feel fortunate to have one LD in a week and can make up some points with their dream recall whereas the upper league is more intermediate level - although there are a few people that can knock it out of the park at will. Three levels would ideal, but then we would need more Boss', She's and Scionox's to fill up the highest league. Not such a quick note, sorry for dragging on.

[AnotherDreamer]

It seems like we have good numbers already and we could have a great turnout for this competition! I just wanted to make a quick note, not to any particular person participating, but to everyone. I think it is very difficult to figure out if you should be in the upper or lower league if you haven't participated before. If you are fairly good you might think that the upper league is only for those that can LD on demand and might be LDing every night of the competition and thus look towards the lower league. Looking at the last competition, this is clearly not the case and myself who I consider at an intermediate level would have looked like an ass in the lower division. Perhaps Scionox can clarify if I am wrong, but my opinion is that the lower league is more for people who would feel fortunate to have one LD in a week and can make up some points with their dream recall whereas the upper league is more intermediate level - although there are a few people that can knock it out of the park at will. Three levels would ideal, but then we would need more Boss', She's and Scionox's to fill up the highest league. Not such a quick note, sorry for dragging on. I'm so glad you wrote this, I'm not as worried about being in the upper league now Edit: If Scionox would kindly move me there

[JoannaB]

Yup, I would say that lower league is for those of us who would be happy to have a lucid dream during the competition, whereas the upper league is for those who would be disappointed if they had just one lucid during the competition.

[Zoth]

Great point fogelbise. One of the problems is the following: certain person might be capable enough to be in the upper league, but imagine that the person does not have any lucid dream for 1 week...that kinda screws the team's score, and imo a lot of the fun is when you and your partner can both work together towards a goal (it sucks when one of the team members is not active). At the same time, looking at last competition, we had people that got noticeably ahead from others in lower league and could thus fit in higher league, just in the last spots. From that perspective, I totally agree with you that lower league should only include people who have a really low lucid dream frequency, just to make things a bit more...same pace same basis. I'll be honest: Can't speak for others, but personally I feel like I'm screwing someone in either league: high league and the (expected) lack of immediate results will screw my partner chance's at team ranks; low league and if results show up relatively quickly I'll feel like I'm cheating over those who are just starting out lucid dreaming. One solution could indeed be an "intermediate league" and we could sort out people not by what league they want to be but on their number of lucid dreams in the past month, but we're only 16 people, and only a few have really high frequency. Or maybe....we are just over thinking it: who cares what miserable score you have in upper league? You'd be doing the less experienced people a favor by increasing the competition at their league. Sign me up for upper leagues instead please Scionox (and sorry to my partner in advance): I'll just work twice regardless of points made

[AstralMango]

Sign me up for lower league, please! <:

[fogelbise]

I'll be honest: Can't speak for others, but personally I feel like I'm screwing someone in either league: high league and the (expected) lack of immediate results will screw my partner chance's at team ranks; low league and if results show up relatively quickly I'll feel like I'm cheating over those who are just starting out lucid dreaming. Good points Zoth. I think it may be "the lesser of two evils." With the former (as long as the person is trying) I think few would hold it against them, whereas with the latter, the person would probably feel very uncomfortable in the lower league. (and sorry to my partner in advance) I would be happy to have you on my team by the way. I am guessing that if you feel like you are making a stretch to be in the upper league, coming back to everything, Scionox will probably pair you up with a stronger hitter than I though.

[StephL]

After that comment, I went in and clicked that button for the 2nd time ever since joining DV Hehehehh! I worded it carefully - not being completely sure - this is a dangerous function, though.. tease (1).gif Spoiler for Offtopic Blast: Well there are a lot worse places but those are mostly places without better choices or america. Germany has a few certain things that damn hard bother me, and that's why I'd like to live elsewhere. 1: GEZ/Zwangsbeitrag - Stealing more than 200€ from me a year for low class tv, bad information, recycled videos and movies. I really, really never use any of their services anyway. Actually the Zwangsbeitrag violates the german constition and witht that my basic rights right from article 1 to 5 and should be outright illegal, but politicians do what they want and people always vote the same ones anyway, whether they screwed up or not. Our country is as far as I know currently the highest paying country there, and that for services you get better and for free on the internet every minute of your life. Here I'm paying the luxury of a huge company while I'm not even sure how I'm gonna get over the next months. 2: Medicine laws - Our law says we may not import pharmacological effective subtances, just as vague as that. Now let me put this short, this basically means they could prevent you from importing anything you could swallow just so as long as it is deemed to have any effect appart from filling your belly. Even if you want to nurture your plants with that. The only reason food doesn't fall under this is apparently because there's a list for food considered things. But there's no list for restricted things, people may just decide to confiscate your stuff one time and next time someone else may check it and say that everythings fine, they're a totally disorganized bunch. Now when you wonder why that's so bad, here's the reason: It's controlled by our pharmacies, they shut germany off from the rest of the world to gain a monopol on what they sell. Something that in this size would be considered illegal for any other kind of competition interference. Again it's only this bad for germany. 3: Shortsighted voters - This year the AfD participated for the first time and they nearly took the 5% hurdle because they wanted to get rid of the euro in favour of the old german mark. Great idea, considering that the impact on our economy could dump is into a huge crisis, not to mention seperate us somewhat from the rest of the EU. And that gets them nearly into the parlament. Seriously? But people don't care about: -Starving people -Climate crisis -Cleaner energy (well okay, they do care a bit, but they always fall asleep on this topic unless some nuclear power plant blows up somewhere in the world once every few year) -Privacy I don't want to get too political but this doesn't bode well for a clean und peaceful future. 4: Schools - Our schools outright suck, and I've been to 8 different schools: -2 Grundschulen [primary schools] -1 Internats Gymnasium [boarding grammar school] -1 Normales Gymnasium [grammar school] -2 Hauptschulen [secondary modern schools] -2 Berufskollegs [vocational colleges] The best and only somewhat good school was that boarding school. It got closed because of MONEY and nothing else. The last vocational college where I'm currently is ok, it's parallel to an apprenticeship and I'm there one in three weeks, each week we get our things to do and then it's mostly up to us, no frontal teaching. I spend: ~10% of my time on doing the actual things I'm supposed to do, my grades are between 3 and 1 depending on the topic ~30% of my time on learning things which are totally unrelated to my job or even to that school in general (quantum physics, yay ) ~60% of my time slacking off and playing around And still do I learn more than in any school ever before. In short: our schools are so bad for certain individuals that I can say for myself it was a waste of time to go to school, the only really good one was that boarding school, it was called Talenta and was located in Eringerfeld. That school was also the only one that contributed to my development as a person, I consider the other schools I was on a complete waste of my time and if I would've spent all these years learning by myself I'd be on a different level than I'm now. I skipped a class but thanks to Talenta being closed I also was set back one, becuase the other schools had a totally shifted learning schedule. I remember that normal grammer school right after Talenta, it was the 9th class, our first lesson in chemical stuff and the teacher asked what an oxidation process is. No one had a clue, I felt like I arrived at a wrong world and I was years further than everyone in my class together. These are just the strongest points I currently know of, that's not even everything. I know there are a lot of worse places but there are better places as well. If some people had their priorities straight germany could also become a wonderful place, but it isn't and we are most certainly going down the wrong route as well. As for where I'd like to live otherwise then... Japan: While I like some of the japanese traits and especially their landscape, their police is just corrupt and stupid, and the common people also have certain behaviour traits which are not so cool. I definitely want to visit it sometime but I wouldn't want to live there, not yet. America: No. Even worse than germany in many ways. Ireland: This one I could imagine, I was there for a month during my time at the first vocational college. I had a great time, the people were nice and there wasn't anything else being bad either. It also has some bad points but so far I don't know of anything as bad as the things mentioned above. England: I don't know, there are things that are better there but it also has some weak points, I would have to seriously consider moving out first and take a look into england. Switzerland: Same as above Canada: Same as above, and while I like cold more than hot I'm not quite sure if I'd like it there in terms of weather. All other possibilities are currently outruled by language. (There could be some errors in here, I just got a message to head out fast, so... finders keepers) ... You do indeed have a lot of good points, why it does suck. Good points Zoth. I think it may be "the lesser of two evils." With the former (as long as the person is trying) I think few would hold it against them, whereas with the latter, the person would probably feel very uncomfortable in the lower league. ... Hm.. When does it start, by the way?

[Zoth]

When does it start, by the way? If I remember correctly, when Scionox finds that the number of current participants is acceptable, he plans the start within a few days of warning us. We're already 16, but hopefully we'll get more people in the next few days, especially if people try to spread the word and invite more members PS: imagine how cool it would be having 12 teams and using the horoscope as team names? And "The virgins" were the people in the 1st rank of upper league? Now that would be funny xD

[mdluffy113]

New to DV, not even sure if this post will display correctly. But this looks like fun so if possible I'd like to be in the lower league. And finally, it's time for yet another competition! It will start after enough people sign up, once signed up make sure to check this thread daily for updates, i'll announce the date a few days before it goes live. Sign up and once the competition goes live be sure to update the score at least once a week, otherwise i will have to disqualify you. Here's the link to the old competition too: http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...read-15-a.html , i am up for suggestions on what to add or change if anyone has nice ideas. If you are good at lucid dreaming, sign up for the Upper League, but otherwise sign up for the Lower League. No lying, no flaming, and have nice lucid dreams! * = Upper League People who have signed up anotherdreamer DreamingGhost FryingMan imJB JoannaB Nfri StephL BrandonBoss* dolphin* fogelbise* Scionox* StaySharp* TheModernNinja*

[pnb1]

Hello, sign me up in the lower league please

[MyCooky]

Me too - lower league please.

[StephL]

If I remember correctly, when Scionox finds that the number of current participants is acceptable, he plans the start within a few days of warning us. We're already 16, but hopefully we'll get more people in the next few days, especially if people try to spread the word and invite more members PS: imagine how cool it would be having 12 teams and using the horoscope as team names? And "The virgins" were the people in the 1st rank of upper league? Now that would be funny xD Oh - cool - so - there are definitively some days pre-warning. Cause I think, the LDs are coming in more reliably now - or rather I got small ones, without all the usual WILD-trara for prep for DILD last two nights. Maybe I change my mind with upper/lower if I get good results the next couple days with trara..

[she]

Hi! I'm in. Upper.

[fogelbise]

Three levels would ideal, but then we would need more Boss', She's and Scionox's to fill up the highest league. Not such a quick note, sorry for dragging on. I saw Dolphin's name earlier and just realized that I probably left some heavy hitters out from competitions prior to #16 (the last one, #16 was my first competition so thus my perspective) in my comment above but Dolphin should definitely be included at the top of 3 leagues if there were a 3rd league. Just felt bad leaving Dolphin out, but there are probably others and I know there are some great lucid dreamers around DV that maybe just hang out it different areas from time to time or just don't compete.

[Sensei]

I saw Dolphin's name earlier and just realized that I probably left some heavy hitters out from competitions prior to #16 (the last one, #16 was my first competition so thus my perspective) in my comment above but Dolphin should definitely be included at the top of 3 leagues if there were a 3rd league. Just felt bad leaving Dolphin out, but there are probably others and I know there are some great lucid dreamers around DV that maybe just hang out it different areas from time to time or just don't compete. There are many with my frequency+. They just dont come in the competition. Check out all the old scores and see how crazy some people are at this. Since it is hard to bring them in from around, but soon you will be at this level too. we all know it. However this isn't the destination. It is simply a glimpse of how we are doing now and a way to drive ourselves forward. The only wrong way is standing still. Keep moving forward.

[StephL]

Test-run last couple of nights - no LDs - bit of self-sabotage going on, too - but anyway - lower league it definitively is! Because in daytime - there was a lot of motivation - but I didn´t get my sorry behind out for WBTB, even, last night.. ah well.

[Bharmo]

Hi everyone! I'm just going back to LDing after a break, so I hope this competition helps motivating me to get regular LDs again. Just had one spontaneous low level LD in three months so definitely sign me up for lower league. Thanks to Scionox for organizing, and JoannaB for pushing me in again

[fogelbise]

There are many with my frequency+. They just dont come in the competition. Check out all the old scores and see how crazy some people are at this. Since it is hard to bring them in from around, but soon you will be at this level too. we all know it. However this isn't the destination. It is simply a glimpse of how we are doing now and a way to drive ourselves forward. The only wrong way is standing still. Keep moving forward. Thank you Bossman! Now that's some encouragement!

[Zoth]

We're all bound to do better at lding during the competition: social facilitation. It's actually why imo these types of events should be much more visible to the rest of the forum, since they are a great way to promote the spirit of a lucid dreaming community. Will switch to night shifts a week from now at work, meaning bye bye WILDing during competition, so I've prepared a packet of MILD + awareness daily exercises to speed up the lucid dreaming training, hope it works! Gonna be fun comparing our dream recall/lding frequency before and after the competition can't wait!

[Sensei]

Perhaps Scionox could use his weight to try and get it more published around DV. hint hint.

[Shalink]

I think I will participate in this competition so I can get back into lucid dreaming after dropping off the face dreamviews for 5 months. I would like to be in the lower league.

[Miau]

Sign me up in the lower league please Thank you!