FYI I had a LD!! Last night and an OBE!!! But I used WILD as I went to bed at about 2:30AM no WBTB so the dreams weren't that vivid, but I had control and it was pretty sweet. I went straight into sleep paralysis, then into an OBE, i came back in my body to a FA did a RC and I was lucid. Have you ever heard of WILD'ing before 4.5 to 6 hours of sleep? I cant wait to catch a nice long REM cycle after about 6 hours of sleep!