Thread: Dangerous way to induce Lucid dreams

I regularly go without sleep for 24 hours, and never experienced this. In general i get most lucids when i sleep (mostly about 7 hours) on a strict scheme for a few days, and then get the day off so i can sleep longer. On the off day i have a much higher chance of them happening.

yeah this is not a very reliable way to achieve lucidity. It is just as likely to cause you to sleep very deeply and not remember your dreams at all.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

yeah this is not a very reliable way to achieve lucidity. It is just as likely to cause you to sleep very deeply and not remember your dreams at all.

Have you tried it?

Originally Posted by EnjoyJoey

Have you tried it?

I have. The only thing thats happened for me is I'll oversleep the next day and forget a lot of the stuff I had dreamed about. It's probably easier to just try a CAT technique.

Totally works, for me anyway. I don't intentionally skip a night's sleep, but I might as well do every time I come home after a night out. Alcohol suppresses REM sleep, so I wake up the next day basically without having dreamed at all. A nap in the afternoon can be a gateway to some of the most stable lucids I've had. Obviously, I'm not recommending getting wasted, or indeed skipping sleep for a night purely for the purpose of getting lucid dreams (that shit is unhealthy, don't do it more than normal just for LDs), but it is one good side effect of a hangover or sleepless night which you can take advantage of the next time the situation crops up.

Originally Posted by J.D.

Totally works, for me anyway. I don't intentionally skip a night's sleep, but I might as well do every time I come home after a night out. Alcohol suppresses REM sleep, so I wake up the next day basically without having dreamed at all. A nap in the afternoon can be a gateway to some of the most stable lucids I've had. Obviously, I'm not recommending getting wasted, or indeed skipping sleep for a night purely for the purpose of getting lucid dreams (that shit is unhealthy, don't do it more than normal just for LDs), but it is one good side effect of a hangover or sleepless night which you can take advantage of the next time the situation crops up.

exactly

Originally Posted by EnjoyJoey

Have you tried it?

I miss sleep on a regular basis, and more often than not what I said earlier is what happens.

The only times it works as you suggest it might is when I happen to go to sleep at the particularly right moment when my body is exhausted but my mind is in one of its up cycles, so that I am able to stay aware as my body falls right off to sleep. This is not a reliable method, however unless you are also pretty good at reading your own consciousness cycles and timing everything perfectly. You would be better off exercising vigorously before going to bed in order to induce the same body tired/mind awake effect.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

I miss sleep on a regular basis, and more often than not what I said earlier is what happens.

The only times it works as you suggest it might is when I happen to go to sleep at the particularly right moment when my body is exhausted but my mind is in one of its up cycles, so that I am able to stay aware as my body falls right off to sleep. This is not a reliable method, however unless you are also pretty good at reading your own consciousness cycles and timing everything perfectly. You would be better off exercising vigorously before going to bed in order to induce the same body tired/mind awake effect.

Agreed. Also better for your health.

It does work for most people and the reasoning behind it is REM-rebound.. If you miss out on REM for a day, or 2 days, or even 3 days, you will have very long rem periods, thus, very vivid rem, however, and the biggest downfall of all these intense vivid experiences is that you will be too tired to ever remember them, or most of them at least...

REM rebounds is what Melatonin is for.

Doesn't work for me... I regularly go for about 20-22 hours without sleep every week (switching from days to night shifts) and the only thing it seems to be doing for me is causing LESS lucid dreams

Originally Posted by Man of Shred

REM rebounds is what Melatonin is for.

Amen. Just took some an hour ago.

I've heard that exercising right before bed isn't good for you. Better than staying up all night though, I suppose.

@ Mosh and Snowy: Do you guys use Melatonin to suppress REM in the first half of the night and then get the rebound in the second half, or do you take it one night and then get the rebound the second night? I seem to recall that Melatonin has a fairly short half-life.

Ya definitely would like to know the answer to this as well... Maybe I should incorporate Melatonin into my Wilds somehow.. or something... Let us know how well it works, and how you are supposed to use it please

I simply find that sleeping less a night before, then a lot the next day gives much more vivid/lucid dreams.

Obvious, I know, but still. Not as dangerous.

Hrm. When I first tried to attain lucidity the other day it was after going about 24 hours without sleep, too; though that's normal for me. (Not sleeping for a bit, I mean!) So I don't know if that helped or hurt, but it certainly didn't 'keep' it from happening as some of the users seem to have said.

Originally Posted by Hidden

@ Mosh and Snowy: Do you guys use Melatonin to suppress REM in the first half of the night and then get the rebound in the second half, or do you take it one night and then get the rebound the second night? I seem to recall that Melatonin has a fairly short half-life.

Well, I have a funny way of taking it. Usually I take about 1.2 mg (I have the 3 mcg tablets) a few hours before I go to bed, just to give it a little time to work. It may seem a bit pointless to some, but I find that it'll causes REM rebound in the second half of the night. That's a big advantage on school nights when I usually don't have recall. The first time I did it I even got a short lucid.

When I used Melatonin it didn't really seem to do a whole lot... No more than I would expect from a placebo, anyway. What I really want is Galantamine, but that's not going to happen. >.>

Originally Posted by Hidden

When I used Melatonin it didn't really seem to do a whole lot... No more than I would expect from a placebo, anyway. What I really want is Galantamine, but that's not going to happen. >.>

why not? I have heard of Galantamind. This is supposed to work really well and you can get it thru the internet...

I can't buy it over the internet because I don't have a credit card and my mom thinks it will give me brain damage... The thing is that I actually asked my doctor and he was just like "no." So now there's no way I'll be able to convince my parents.

When I saw the title of this thread I thought it would be like "pass out to WILD more easily!" or something like that.

About the only time I can ever WILD is if I've recently been sleep-deprived, and then go to sleep in the morning. I did pull off a successful FILD once...but even that tends to require a certain degree of sleep deprivation, in that the technique itself makes it hard to fall back asleep again.

I haven't been actively attempting to lucid dream very much for a while...but I've had a couple spontaneous DILDs recently by getting up to pee and then going back to sleep after focusing on something not LD-related for maybe 15 minutes or so...and then when I go back to sleep, I dream of doing that activity again, but something's weird, and that tips me off that I'm dreaming. It's basically WBTB but without the LD-specific focus. They were pretty good DILDs too.