Thread: Parents think LDing is an occult...

Originally Posted by lucid4sho

Occult;

the word occult comes from the Latin word occultus (clandestine, hidden, secret), referring to "knowledge of the hidden".

I definitely consider lucid dreaming an occult practice

Under a specific definition, yes. But the parents who think it's weird probably have a different meaning of occult.. or have a whole new word for it.

That's where I was coming from - I had a definition of "occult" based on the things I saw it labelling in Barnes & Noble and in movies and things people have said.

–adjective
1. of or pertaining to magic, astrology, or any system claiming use or knowledge of secret or supernatural powers or agencies.
2. beyond the range of ordinary knowledge or understanding; mysterious.
3. secret; disclosed or communicated only to the initiated.
4. hidden from view.
5. (in early science)
a. not apparent on mere inspection but discoverable by experimentation.
b. of a nature not understood, as physical qualities.
c. dealing with such qualities; experimental: occult science.
6. Medicine/Medical. present in amounts too small to be visible: a chemical test to detect occult blood in the stool.
–noun
7. the supernatural or supernatural agencies and affairs considered as a whole (usually prec. by the).
8. occult studies or sciences (usually prec. by the).
–verb (used with object)
9. to block or shut off (an object) from view; hide.
10. Astronomy. to hide (a celestial body) by occultation.
–verb (used without object)
11. to become hidden or shut off from view.
Origin:
1520–30; < L occultus (ptp. of occulere to hide from view, cover up), equiv. to oc- oc- + -cul-, akin to cēlāre to conceal + -tus ptp. suffix

Related forms:
oc⋅cult⋅er, noun
oc⋅cult⋅ly, adverb
oc⋅cult⋅ness, noun

Synonyms:
2. metaphysical, supernatural. 3. concealed, unrevealed; veiled, shrouded; mystical, cabalistic.

I think b. of a nature not understood, as physical qualities really speaks truth to the nature of LDing as presented by the OP, ten pages ago. XD

3. secret; disclosed or communicated only to the initiated would be true, though the latter half would be only applicable if the only practitioners of LDing were DV members or members of an LD society.

I bolded everything that is possibly true.

And that was very helpful of you, I might add; I suggested the most applicable of the bolded lines.

Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

I think b. of a nature not understood, as physical qualities really speaks truth to the nature of LDing as presented by the OP, ten pages ago. XD

3. secret; disclosed or communicated only to the initiated would be true, though the latter half would be only applicable if the only practitioners of LDing were DV members or members of an LD society.

I completely agree with b. It seems like most of the friends I talk to about it think it's either fake or .. like this topic has stated, some kind of occult.

I wish more of my friends were a lot more interested!..

I only know one person interested. He has now had his first Lucid. Same way I did, first night of studying on ReeceJones. He probably won't have another lucid for a while now but then it'll come to him. I asked him to join the forums, though he hasn't been on the computer today.

Originally Posted by jarrhead

I only know one person interested. He has now had his first Lucid. Same way I did, first night of studying on ReeceJones. He probably won't have another lucid for a while now but then it'll come to him. I asked him to join the forums, though he hasn't been on the computer today.

I love reeces videos. They helped me become lucid for the first time too. To bad he doesn't make LD videos anmore.

Originally Posted by Mario92

I must have the coolest parents ever...neither of them really care, to be honest, but at least they aren't getting in my way about it.

Same here. At first, it was actually me who was bit scared about LD (which is natural I believe). Then when I told them, they were excited about it and they liked it.

Ignorance never dies... *stabs ignorance in the side of the head with a knife repeatedly to no avail*



But seriously, who the hell thinks that? People who've never tried it. Maybe you should get your parents hooked on cranberry juice because I've heard that helps LDing. Just hope they don't wake up after having one, sweaty faced, then fall to the floor and start praying though, or you're screwed on ever talking to them about it.



Also, your topic had me scared at first. I thought there was a nation wide movement of parents who thought LDing was an occult thing. o.0

My mom is quite interested in some aspects of dreaming, but sometimes, since it is a very, how to say, "sacred" theme for me, I get very disappointed by her attitude...Damn I wish I could tell her how facinating and important this is for me.
But I guess I'll just have to deal with it!

Just don't tell them about it anymore, if they don't understand there's no use in wasting your breath! I wouldn't talk about it around them so they don't get upset. Just keep dreaming and enjoying them! If you wanna talk about them tell your friends!

It just makes me laugh that people get worried about dreaming, WHAT dreaming's a great thing, I think we'd all go mad if we didn't have them. People can tell you not to lucid dream but cmon, it's not like they can stop you!

ahahahah i just had a thought! maybe they made all that up cos they're scared you're gonna start dreaming about sex and stuff! XD pahahahaha

Who cares about parents? Just enjoy LDing! ^^

My dad doesn't know. No need to talk to him about it. My brother doesn't care, but he doesn't bash it. My mom doesn't comment. I had to ask her to buy me a copy of ETWOLD.

My whole family knows about my lucid dreaming. Neither of them mind. Why should they? In fact often I talk about it to my mother, like any recurring dreams I've had. I even told her I was experimenting with a shared dreaming thing for fun and she didn't mind.
Why should anyone care?

Originally Posted by Loaf

My whole family knows about my lucid dreaming. Neither of them mind. Why should they? In fact often I talk about it to my mother, like any recurring dreams I've had. I even told her I was experimenting with a shared dreaming thing for fun and she didn't mind.
Why should anyone care?

This. You are sleeping for fuck sake ;/

Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

Is that so? I didn't know that, I thought the literal definition was much darker.

Agreed!! So, this topic's title then support parents' understanding of LDing, but with darker connotations.

i believe in the bible God tells the jews he has not hidden anything from them. he put everything out in the open. so if their christian their definition of "occult" could be correct. but also they have to take into account the verse in the new testament that says "and your young men shall dream dreams"

Originally Posted by pdiddles03

i believe in the bible God tells the jews he has not hidden anything from them. he put everything out in the open. so if their christian their definition of "occult" could be correct. but also they have to take into account the verse in the new testament that says "and your young men shall dream dreams"

So... God told Jews that they now know everything? That seems like it would go against natural human curiosity.

Getting off topic don't start getting off topic.

Originally Posted by bradysdreaming

Getting off topic don't start getting off topic.

We're on page 11. Derailment is inevitable.

I hope someone cleans these posts up, that was just silly.

The literal meaning of Occult means "hidden". Lucid dreaming is not hidden. There's lots of info available on it. Tell your parents that.

Although this thread is on page 11 and is having a few off-topic chats, edible boogieing emotes are not going to be spammed solely because things are cooling down. So I say...

Really? Just don't.