Thread: Parents think LDing is an occult...

Originally Posted by Hidden

Oh wow, that sounds really intense. Is it actually possible? Even for someone who normally needs 8-9 hours of sleep per night?

Yea, but it is unhealthy in my opinion, and if the only reason you are doing it is for more lucid dreams, you need to re-evaluate your priorities (Atleast thats how I feel about it.)

Besides, I like my 8 hours of sleep.

Originally Posted by Exdream

Yea, but it is unhealthy in my opinion, and if the only reason you are doing it is for more lucid dreams, you need to re-evaluate your priorities (Atleast thats how I feel about it.)

Besides, I like my 8 hours of sleep.

I agree with you. Lucid dreaming should be a pass time, not an obsession. I'm not saying it's bad for some people to obsess over it, that's just the way some people are, but there should be a limit. Giving a full nights sleep just to have a lucid dream is a little much, in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Reverie Phantom

I agree with you. Lucid dreaming should be a pass time, not an obsession. I'm not saying it's bad for some people to obsess over it, that's just the way some people are, but there should be a limit. Giving a full nights sleep just to have a lucid dream is a little much, in my opinion.

Same here Lucid Dreaming should be a hobby not a lifestyle.

Originally Posted by Exdream

Yea, but it is unhealthy in my opinion, and if the only reason you are doing it is for more lucid dreams, you need to re-evaluate your priorities (Atleast thats how I feel about it.)

Besides, I like my 8 hours of sleep.

You think I'd do it just for lucid dreaming? Do you understand how incredibly inconvenient having to nap every four hours is? I wouldn't make such a big change just to have better dreams.

I find the idea intriguing. I'd do it to have more time in a day, and to see if I have the self-discipline to pull it off. And something about having days with no definite beginnings or ends appeals to me. Of course, I couldn't fit it into my regular school schedule, but I'd like to try it over the summer.

Whether or not something is unhealthy isn't an opinion; it either is or isn't. Every source I've found has said that there haven't been any studies done on the long-term effects of using this sleep cycle. The main risk is going into it not knowing what all the possible risks are. I'm not saying it's safe, just that as far as people know it hasn't hurt anyone yet.

If I'm going to do this, I'm definitely going to research it more and come up with some sort of plan. I told my mom about it, and she thought it sounded cool. The only thing she said about its safety was that if I start hallucinating she's going to step in. Which is a bit ironic, since one of my first thoughts when considering actually trying it was, "if I start hallucinating, I'll know it's time to stop."

Believe it or not, its application in lucid dreaming was more of an afterthought for me.

Originally Posted by Hidden

Oh wow, that sounds really intense. Is it actually possible? Even for someone who normally needs 8-9 hours of sleep per night?

Originally Posted by Exdream

Yea, but it is unhealthy in my opinion, and if the only reason you are doing it is for more lucid dreams, you need to re-evaluate your priorities (Atleast thats how I feel about it.)

Besides, I like my 8 hours of sleep.

Originally Posted by Reverie Phantom

I agree with you. Lucid dreaming should be a pass time, not an obsession. I'm not saying it's bad for some people to obsess over it, that's just the way some people are, but there should be a limit. Giving a full nights sleep just to have a lucid dream is a little much, in my opinion.

Whoa-ho-ho-ho-ho-hoa!! Uberman's Sleep Schedule and Lucid Dreaming are two ENTIRELY separate things!! The main reason I didn't look into the sleep schedule was because I wanted to try Lucid Dreaming, and didn't find having 20-minute REM naps to be a good idea to mix with experiments of LDing.

(Also, @Exdream, your opinion is based on your perception of it. Unless you do research into it, I'd suggest not immediately labelling it as "unhealthy" unless you have some facts. While I see where you might get that IDEA, if you take the time to read Vlad Dolezal's blog posting on it, he cites a man who tried it out to see if it worked - and it worked. For many months on end. The only reason he stopped was due to a change in his life that wouldn't allow for a nap every four hours, which I imagine would be a job or college schedule. So, it's doable and healthy, from the evidence I've seen thus far.)


Lucid dreaming shouldn't be an obsession. I enjoy the idea of it and continue to pursue it until I get to the point where I can enjoy the benefits of being able to properly induce LDs for myself fairly regularly if I so choose to, but it's not the reason I sleep. This involvement with LDing and paying attention to my sleep schedule has improved my awareness of my sleep, so if anything it's helped me stay a little more healthy in terms of getting enough sleep and knowing whether or not I've gotten enough sleep, instead of just guessing if I've had enough.

And lastly, Filimonki's got it right - use your own judgement and common sense to know when and to whom you present LDing to someone. Not everyone will have the same negative reaction, but then again, not everyone will have the same positive reaction either.