Thread: It's like you're in a nine millimeter war!

Well, I don't tend to get what you call messeges but generelly my last dreams of the night are both more vivid and longer, I don't know why though. I could be the fact that I often wake up from them and therefore recall them better but another explanation would have somthing to do with REM-cycles. If I've got this right the longer you sleep the longer your REM-cycles get and it's during REM we dream (I think). So pherhaps the longer the more intense?

The other phenomenon you described, the imagery before falling alseep is here refered to as HI or hypnagogic imagery and it is very common. Sorry to say I don't know the ins and outs of it



Why isn't wars measured in distance anyway? Makes sense, no?



By the way I see your name is Henrik, are you scandinavian by any chance?

-Olof

9 milimeter..

Anything to do with 9 milimeter guns? Say such as a street war, cause most legal guns are around 9mm? any turf/gang wars going on?

Trouble in your neighborhood?

Bel-Air?

Originally Posted by ollei

Well, I don't tend to get what you call messeges but generelly my last dreams of the night are both more vivid and longer, I don't know why though. I could be the fact that I often wake up from them and therefore recall them better but another explanation would have somthing to do with REM-cycles. If I've got this right the longer you sleep the longer your REM-cycles get and it's during REM we dream (I think). So pherhaps the longer the more intense?

The other phenomenon you described, the imagery before falling alseep is here refered to as HI or hypnagogic imagery and it is very common. Sorry to say I don't know the ins and outs of it



Why isn't wars measured in distance anyway? Makes sense, no?



By the way I see your name is Henrik, are you scandinavian by any chance?

-Olof

Yeah, maybe not messages, but it's not very often I can actually hear a sentence that means something. It's really cool.

And I read somewhere that a good thing to do is to get up a little earlier in the morning, maybe go to the bathroom, and then just go back to sleep, should be easier then to have dreams.

Another thing that I was thinking about is the feelings after a good/sad/epic dream. Sometimes when I have a dream that I would really like to come true, or had been true, I feel pain and sorrow when I wake up and figure that it wasn't real. It was a good dream, but a sad truth.

In an epic dream it could be like I'm some sort of a hero, the self-esteem is pouring and it feels really good, I can keep these feelings a while after I've woken up. Are these type of feelings common?

And another thing, I can't fully understand how a lucid dream is like. Is it just like magic? I mean, is it in real time. When you wake up from this lucidity, is it like being quickly teleported right back into your body, and you remember every second of it, like it was real? My dreams are usually like a movie that I only remember, not being a part of it. Could someone explain this?

Yes, I'm scandinavian, Swedish.

Originally Posted by jarrhead

9 milimeter..

Anything to do with 9 milimeter guns? Say such as a street war, cause most legal guns are around 9mm? any turf/gang wars going on?

Trouble in your neighborhood?

Bel-Air?

No, nothing like that. I don't have the slightest idea where my brain has gotten it from, probably from the guns.

Thanks for the replys!

-Henrik

Many people say to stay away from the "Layer System" of lucidity, but whether you believe it or not, it's a great way to demonstrate the different levels of lucidity.

There are many stages of lucidity. Obviously, not at all, or having an "unconfirmed suspicion" i call it, which has happened to me one. Where It felt like I was extremely horny to prove it wasn't a dream, but no reality checks worked.

Then there's where you can control yourself.
Then there's where you can control yourself and your environment.
And where you realize your dream characters are just your imagination.
And where you can control you dream characters.
And where you realize that it's a dream AND your body is in bed at home.
And where you can control everything, know your body's at home, etc. etc. etc. etc...

And things called Out of Body Experiences (OBEs) which I have no experience with.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3GJTkG60X4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK0hD...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZO3R...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nux2e7SDofU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywwli...eature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlL5d...2ADE63BB187AB5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKArm...2ADE63BB187AB5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgjUx...2ADE63BB187AB5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIqEF...2ADE63BB187AB5


I personally don't believe his "Layer Zero" Is lucidity at all. However, I classify my "unconfirmed suspicions" as Layer Zeros.

I think what you are trying to describe is WBTB which is not really an tech to have dreams more easily, you have those wheter you try or not. you can look it up in the tutorial section.

I also experience very strong feelings when i dream, both good and bad. And I think this very common, why else whould so many of us take such great intrest in dreams? I think it's partly what makes dreams seem significant to us.

You're qustion about lucids however has gotten me confused. Do you think lucids aren't real and when you ask if you are directly teleported back into your bodydo you mean that your soul or saomthing acctualy left in the first place?
Lucid dreaming is a consiouss dream, which means a dream where you know that you are dreaming and therefore can control it. Lucids as well as all dreams are products of our mind. Therefore they can also be experienced as vivid and real as waking life. It all just comes down to how well you can remeber that experience and how vividly you dream. Dream recall can be trained, and the vividness can be consiously enhanced within a lucid dream. So short and sweet, yeah they seem real but has nothing to do with magic.


If you want to discuss this further I suggest you PM me as I am also swedish and find it easier to talk about in swedish, Låt oss tala svenska