Thread: Is it possible to enter an LD outside of a REM cycle?

Originally Posted by Shift

How do you know you were in NREM?

I never said I did, but, if you wake up in the middle of the night, let's say <1.5h within sleep, it's quite possible to be a NREM cycle. It takes approximately 1.5h to get a REM cycle, so, waking before usually means you wake up in NREM

Originally Posted by moonshine

In point of fact you can. People woken in the lab during NREM do describe something.

I should have probably rephrased the question differently. From what I've read, people do remember something when awoken from NREM dreams, but, how much do they remember compared to REM dreams? That is what I'm interested in. I woke up a couple of times the last 2-3 nights and I would hazard that at least one to two must have been NREM and although, I do remember that I daydreamed something, I am still at a loss of words what it was. It's very perplexing to almost be able to grasp something, but, it's still out of your grasp

As to where I stand in this, I think REM sleep requires SP to prevent the enactment of your dream in RL while you sleep, as for NREM sleep, no SP is required because its similar to a daydream. Whenever I daydream, you can probably incorporate most senses by thinking back to let's say how an apple tasted or the sound it made when you bite it, but, unlike in REM, while are actually acting the dream, in the daydream, you can move but it's really you imagining that you moved, not that you have physically moved. So, if I'm not mistaken, I agree with moonshine on this one