Thread: Is it possible to enter an LD outside of a REM cycle?

Does anyone know the cause of a tickeling feeling all over your leggs when you attempt anything near WILD or WAILD?

That should be the numbness caused by the sleep pralysis process I think. It it usually isn't limited to just your legs. In my first SP experience (before I even know what SP was) I was convinced that I was somehow being electricuted in my bed - I had this tingly feeling all over my body and I couldn't move or even scream.

I think it's possible, but it's not possible to know either way because you wouldn't remember it.

It is possible. I know this from experience. It was over in a second but I knew I was dreaming nevertheless. They won't be nearly as vivid and won't be remembered unless you get up every hour or so.

The tingling/tickling feeling from WILDing means your body is shutting down. Don't move and you are almost there, for me at least. Oh I noticed you said before you went to bed. Good job not many can pull that off

Originally Posted by Tornado Joe

That should be the numbness caused by the sleep pralysis process I think. It it usually isn't limited to just your legs. In my first SP experience (before I even know what SP was) I was convinced that I was somehow being electricuted in my bed - I had this tingly feeling all over my body and I couldn't move or even scream.

Hmm, the feeling doesn't feel like numbness but I will try to stand it for some minutes tonight. I am able to move however... If SP kicks in, is it an easier base to start an LD or otherwise enter altered mental states? Any experience anyone?

Oh and guys, although I love experimenting on my own, is there anyone who could join me in doing the impossible? It would be fun and educative to have two different perceptions on this experiment...

- Chris

Originally Posted by ChrisDeemian

Hmm, the feeling doesn't feel like numbness but I will try to stand it for some minutes tonight. I am able to move however... If SP kicks in, is it an easier base to start an LD or otherwise enter altered mental states? Any experience anyone?

Oh and guys, although I love experimenting on my own, is there anyone who could join me in doing the impossible? It would be fun and educative to have two different perceptions on this experiment...

- Chris

When the feeling you don't like happens try visualizing. That helps take my mind off it. Last time I pictured myself rolling out of my body and I got some crazy HI and started me LD.

I managed to do it once. The funny thing is that was the first lucid dream I ever had since I learned about lucid dreaming. And the chance that it'll work is a lot bigger if you're very sleepy before going to bed.

About the lucid dream I had, it lasted for about 5-10 mins.

Originally Posted by ChrisD

Hmm, the feeling doesn't feel like numbness but I will try to stand it for some minutes tonight.

Well mabybe 'numbness' isn't the exact word - but it's sort of like that feeling you get when your leg 'falls asleep' from sitting too long or similar. I'm not a physician or anything, but I imagine the oncoming of SP sensation is the nerves in the body going into the shut down mode.

I am able to move however... If SP kicks in, is it an easier base to start an LD or otherwise enter altered mental states?

You're able to move because you probably have not yet completed the process. CAUTION: You will, however, stop the process if you get too excited - rasing your brainwave frequency and becoming alert. If SP kicks in, the answer is 'yes', it IS easier to kick into an LD from this state. This is what a WILD is. It takes practice, but there is a delicate balance between trying to stay alert enough to keep your consciousness from slipping into a non-lucid dream, and staying alert enough to bring your awareness INTO a dream with you (lucidity).
But this veers off your original question.