Thread: Ultrasound to induce Lucid Dreams?

Originally Posted by lucid4sho

Very fascinating. This kinda stuff is probably the future of LDing.

I bet it isn't long before there is a house hold helmet that instantly induces an LD, video game consoles will be a thing of the past.

Nah, probably porn will be a thing of the past but people are going to want video games for the social aspect and interaction. Until you can actually link brains and share dreams, I think there are certain types of people who are going to view it as too individual and anti-social of an experience. Sucks for them, I'd buy like 3 helmets all for myself!

does anyone know how I can get my hand on any low frequency Ultrasound devices?

a hospital? lol

I dunno, seems quite ballsy to me to start screwing with your head like that. I wouldn't do it unless I knew precisely what I was doing, which I don't. I'm cautious about things like this though, I don't even like the idea of binaural beats because I have no idea what they are actually doing or if the person who made it was qualified to screw with my head

Originally Posted by Shift

a hospital? lol

I dunno, seems quite ballsy to me to start screwing with your head like that. I wouldn't do it unless I knew precisely what I was doing, which I don't. I'm cautious about things like this though, I don't even like the idea of binaural beats because I have no idea what they are actually doing or if the person who made it was qualified to screw with my head

"One prior stumbling block to using ultrasound noninvasively in the brain has been the skull. However, the acoustic frequencies utilized by Tyler and his colleagues to construct their pulsed ultrasound waveforms, overlap with a frequency range where optimal energy gains are achieved between transcranial transmission and brain absorption of ultrasound - which allows the ultrasound to penetrate bone and yet prevent damage to the soft tissues. Their findings are supported by other studies examining the potential of high-intensity focused ultrasound for ablating brain tissues, where it was shown that low-frequency ultrasound could be focused through human skulls."

- http://www.news-medical.net/?id=42266


I doubt that low frequency ultrasound is dangerous, some people already use it with their electric toothbrushes.

Ultrasound is just sound that is higher in frequency than what the human ear can hear.

Dogs, cats and other animals can hear ultrasound.

I realize all these things, I just don't like screwing around with things I don't fully understand. And I'm not talking about soft tissue, more about things like brainwave entrainment and what exactly you're doing to your brain. Since I'd have no idea what I'd be doing, I don't like the idea of arbitrarily using things to mess with it

I read the study, and it stated that the feasibility of in vivo usage of LILFU as a therapeutic tool is yet to be proven. It seems like they tested a variety of tissues in vitro, and noticed ion/voltage modulation, citing studies that showed ultrasound can be focused beyond the skull, but had not actually tested this technique on human subjects (understandably).

Things may begin to flower in the coming years, however. I've always wanted to look into dream-induction via neurological modulation, but am finding myself limited by economic concerns (the darn economy doesn't appreciate science as much as it used to ).

This is what im thinking, the reason where not lucid duing dreams is because the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex is deactivated during dreams.

The dorsolateral prefrontal cortex is located behind your forehead and its role is sustaining attention and working memory and consciousness



If i can find some way to have low intensity low frequency Ultrasound (LILFU) on my forehead while im dreaming. This could possibly become a huge breakthrough in Lucid dream Tech if it works.

But as you pointed out, i lack the resources, by any chance do you know where I could possibly find/buy an Ultrasound thing?

Originally Posted by Shift

Nah, probably porn will be a thing of the past but people are going to want video games for the social aspect and interaction. Until you can actually link brains and share dreams, I think there are certain types of people who are going to view it as too individual and anti-social of an experience. Sucks for them, I'd buy like 3 helmets all for myself!

Very true.