THat other forum sucks compared to DV. No forum can compare to this one...that Ive seen so far. None have that warm fuzzy feel to it. The formats suck, and thiers just not as much knowledge on them. Everytime I leave DV and go to another forum I feel like the most knowledgable one there, because of DV. Here I feel surrpunded by lots of people who know lots of things and have lots to share. How long has this site been around? It really is something. I couldnt reccomend anything better than this site for anyone who aspires to be a succesfull Onieranaut.