Thread: Possible to stay conscious during full sleep cycle?

This is somthing i have been wondering about for a while, i think it might be possable to stay awake or aware that your there the whole night if you practice enough... while still getting good rest.

is this totally impossible, or would it just take a lot of will?
(i have as much time as i need since it's summer)

thanks in advance for any of your responses


(like an all night WILD) hah

I think what you might be getting at is Tibetan dream yoga i got a book on it the other day as part of one of those amazon deal things.

I have a feeling it might take longer than a summer to lern tho :-)

Originally posted by some random review

Even for a seasoned lucid dreamer like myself, this book was highly useful in offering traditional Tibetan practices for lucid dream induction, as well as various suggestions for activities to attempt within a fully lucid dream. However, what is most amazing about this book is its instructions for abiding as the pure, empty Awareness (rigpa) that is our true Self. As a Zen Buddhist, I am quite familiar with maintaining this \"mirror-mind,\" but I usually cannot maintain it for very long, and I've never held it past the dream stage, into deep dreamless sleep. The practices in this book are helping me to change all that. Maintaining meditation practice during sleep--literally 24 hours a day--accelerates things profoundly. When the gross, manifest world of spacetime has dissolved into the subtle realm of souls and dreaming, and when even that realm has dissolved into Emptiness, your truest self shines forth clearly as the one and only Mind behind all illusory manifestation. Truly, the awareness within you that is right now reading these words is the Buddha. Your true nature is absolutely vast, silent, empty, blissful, and timeless Consciousness as Such--the source and substance of all that seems to exist. When you become identified with this Consciousness, your true Self, and not merely with the deluded, individual mind (or ego), you find yourself in a state of constant consciousness--never blinking, never fading, 24 hours a day--remaining completely \"awake\" even during dreaming and deep sleep. You'll have discovered your true Home--the Home you've never left, the Home you couldn't possibly leave, but a Home that you refused to admit you were in while you suffered for lifetimes in this silly dream.

I had a couple of experiences with heightened awareness through the night. Kinda like I know it's all a dream, but I just observe and follow it. At some point I decided to become lucid and I did...
But it was very shallow dream, and at some point I could feel my body.
So I doubt you'll get a good rest. :/

I think i'm going to for the next few weeks try and see how long after i go to bed i can stay awake... i usually get wandering thoughs and just kinda lose hold but if i try i' am sure i'll be able to get somewhere...

Originally posted by FusionPuppy
This is somthing i have been wondering about for a while, i think it might be possable to stay awake or aware that your there the whole night if you practice enough... while still getting good rest.

My question is why the heck do you want to do that? Is someone plotting to assassinate you in bed?

Originally posted by FusionPuppy
This is somthing i have been wondering about for a while, i think it might be possable to stay awake or aware that your there the whole night if you practice enough... while still getting good rest.

is this totally impossible, or would it just take a lot of will?
(i have as much time as i need since it's summer)

thanks in advance for any of your responses


(like an all night WILD) hah

That is essentially what trance meditation is. You are awake, but your body is asleep.

i tryed and somehow got somthing working... it's freaky
somehow i have my mom's glasses and she show's me things and allways wants them back but if i keep them i can hold onto them i will not lose it and i will be able to live the rest of my life like this it's insane but ill make it wow is all i can say i have a will that is very big...

i'll read any replys to this, dont belive me or call my psychotic all you want but i got it i'm here....

Hey fusionpuppy, can you try and make a coherent sentence? I can't figure out what you just said.

Yes you can. You should read Robert Moss' books, Conscious Dreaming and Dreamgates. They tell you everything.

my sentences might not be coherent because i'm not getting as much rest as i used to when i would sleep, but i still like this over other things and i will get better the longer i do this i belive.

thanks for replying and i'm getting better and better at making usefull sentences

at least i know so.
yep that's all...
Fusionpuppy out...

normal things seem incoherent and incoherent things seem normal.


edit**
that makes everythign really intresting !

Fusion puppy....what are you saying? It sounds interesting yet totally doesnt make sense? Have you not slept for 10 days? Because then I believe your legally insane.

i have a hold of what i wanted.
but since i did not take a long time to learn it, it was hard to get to the point to know that you have to not allways deal with all the info at one time.

that is why i did not make sense before.

i was giving too much info, thus saying noting.

gameover, if i am not correct then i am insane, but i'm takeing my med's again(also why i was hard to understand) and still going to the psychiatrist so...

i'm ok !!!

all this leads to sleep?
'

its like i dont have any real things to type
so why am i typeing?
all the stuff that is happining
is crazy and insane
i do no know what i am to do next
**(that was me trying to think too much)**
this is like a levle of chess without the rooks
i dont kknow whhy it mattters but look at it
wow
i'm just sitting here doing **(at time i meant noting but the orignial is the best so yes i was)**noting
you know the people in movies that say to look at the small things? i like am an endless small thing i guess
be more intresting OR DAMN YOU TO THE DEPTHS OF MY BEDDROOOM!

dong the long in the mon of the ohon your are auyl to eat thea ln doauta seni dont eat it~!

rats were fun i danced with them and stuff it was awsom they are people too!
there is no way to explain what it is to trip, to be in this state is godlike, i would do some things to get back here...(hard to explain)

geisting a word meaning your being freaked out and know it or somtihgn i orget aw damn wtf...
ever get the feeling that your inermost thoughts are driving you to think about your innermost thoughts driving you to think about your innermost thoughts driving you to think
just to keep you in line . BACON. backout back to stage right left frog poo face dirt bag
i hear ozzy oss born on the music chamber in the room of other ther
it is discovered a comet has hit you in the forhead with a mallet

bAcKfULlOfMetAl: u ever going to pass out or slee?
bAcKfULlOfMetAl: sleep
?
XpinkXshadowsX: i dont sleep
XpinkXshadowsX: im an insomniac
bAcKfULlOfMetAl: well i used to sleep all the time, but now i have taken up a new hobby and that's putting all my sleeping stuff into the regular stuff
bAcKfULlOfMetAl: haha
bAcKfULlOfMetAl: it's intense
bAcKfULlOfMetAl: you shoudl try it
XpinkXshadowsX: how could i set that up

conteniu

it's cool but you need the stuff to get ya here... drugs... and you better hope they take you here and not to some altnet possaiblity
lavender is the color of the moon on the day of the augest nights
i will create a new form of art that will from now on increase my life's coolness levles by much!

well in the end we are all best friends, if that's what you tink is going to be in your end, your end is your own and only that nothing other then your own and you cannot stop to think about anytying other then that it will not and can not be anything but your own damnit!.

my hand has no blood but once bleed


i have so much more life to live and since i learned about how to increase the amount of time i have in a very good fasion it is the best ever planed on the earth's worlds tides
blackman and robingtheams

bAcKfULlOfMetAl: it's fucking scary how much i can know at ocne
XpinkXshadowsX: yes
XpinkXshadowsX: it is
bAcKfULlOfMetAl: one moment in time
bAcKfULlOfMetAl: i know so much your going to blow up
XpinkXshadowsX: i know
bAcKfULlOfMetAl: and i'm goin to eat the rubber end
XpinkXshadowsX: lol
XpinkXshadowsX: nuh uh
XpinkXshadowsX: you'll blow up too
bAcKfULlOfMetAl: wtf am i spuing about

bAcKfULlOfMetAl: your just then and now
bAcKfULlOfMetAl: i am here and your not now

throw rose pettels at dad like raZor blades ( mom says its working well)

if the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we could not

i have a figure that act's like my mom that runs around in my head anf fucks with me

that figure is my subconcious mind so my mind fucks with me

i need to be aarons friend my subconcious tells me at least.... seems to think he needs me....
i will be aarons friend and rember all of this
i need to not take any pills or smoke any drugs untill after my piss test on tusesday
this is getting very very weird
ok then]
the original is allways good allways look at the original

there is no proble
get over it
making somthing of nothing
he said she she said he said they we said they said
talk to the concler
(whenever i get close to figuring somthing in my life out the put me in the mental hospitol(weird but not this time)this can be my proof)
dont say anything to gram talk to the concler she will try to figure a way to get him out of it(could be a good thing whaveever)
'she want's people to give her all their info ' but no on can have her info' then she still does not give any of her info.

it dont matter if i lock the door because i can get back in any way
sleep is an exploration of the mind
vision is now starting to lack or jump forward
this is diffrent
but i'll put the yrm0m cd i'm burning on and lay down and explor the universe in my room in a min now
bye this was a great trip and log and shit
i'll do this again... in a while
at least 2 month sbreak but still control my dreams and perfect memory and know things all things

... yeh bye now

i have to take my pill and go to sleep and then i'll be normal again and everything will be ok
i'll rember but be ok.

Key
**(after the fact)**