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      Does marijuana help with lucid dreaming?

      Without getting too specific (I don't know how the admins feel about discussing the use of marijuana), do any users on the forum feel that smoking before going to bed can help to attain lucidity? I know that it does tend to open the mind up, so it would seem to make sense that it would help you to take control of your mind in the sleeping state. I'm a newbie to LDing, but I (may or may not) have done my fair share of marijuana, and I'm just curious as to what you guys have experienced.

      PS. Admins, if this discussion is not allowed, please forgive me and close the thread, I'm just curious as to other people's experiences with marijuana and lucid dreaming.

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      If there's a reason it shouldnt be allowed its just cos your so wayyy off..
      I'd want weed to be like calea zakatechichi (go look it up) but the fact (sad fact) is that both alcohol and weed are amazing dream destroyers.. you just dont dream- or it makes dream recall neer-impossible.. i can tell you that after travling in india for 6 months the dreams you 100% recall though are very vivid, but when not using or drinking I get to recall neerly every dream, with- you have a dream about once a month, and its probly' cos you had nothing to smoke that day..
      Dont use drugs if you wanna luci, use the drugs that help luckly- they'r even legal..
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      Ancient shamans used weed to induce WILDs more faster and to improve the experience... but, it will only help you if you are already good at WILDing. If you're not good at WILD, it's useless trying it on weed. (good means 100% succesrate)

      But, it's also very true, which I can confirm from my own experiences, that your dream recall will be, indeed, totally destroyed. I'm quite sure you have more vivid dreams since you sleep very well when you smoked, but they are kinda useless if you can't remember them :p
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      Have you read something about melatonin and seratonin?
      just have a look about this on the web and you will notice that it is not needed any other kind of drug but your pineal gland self made melatonin and seratonin.

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      I've heard it makes your recall quite bad, and I've only heard that it hurts your ability if anything.

      Also it should not be a problem in posting this, there are frequent threads about drugs and how they effect lucid dreaming.



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      Quote Originally Posted by Box77 View Post
      Have you read something about melatonin and seratonin?
      just have a look about this on the web and you will notice that [marijuana] is not needed [or] any other kind of drug but your pineal gland self made melatonin and seratonin.
      Very good point indeed.

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      If you don't mind having stoned dreams then while not. The bad thing about marijuana is those ridicules loud high frequency pitches. That would actually fuck you up if you smoke too much. So it's fucked up. Weed isn’t design for crack heads. What I mean by crack is people with cracked mentality. That will put you in a bad light in one fucked up dimension.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba View Post
      Ancient shamans used weed to induce WILDs more faster and to improve the experience... but, it will only help you if you are already good at WILDing. If you're not good at WILD, it's useless trying it on weed. (good means 100% succesrate)

      But, it's also very true, which I can confirm from my own experiences, that your dream recall will be, indeed, totally destroyed. I'm quite sure you have more vivid dreams since you sleep very well when you smoked, but they are kinda useless if you can't remember them :p
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      Marijuana is good for a sleep aid, but not so great in the department of dream recall.

      And lol at users saying it makes you lazy. Please

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      I'm in the exact situation right now, quit smoking again and my dream recall is fantastic as in 3 a night at least

      I used to be an all day smoker in my 20 and early 30's, then a daily nightime (right after work until bed) maybe 1 to 2 joints a night

      i agree with zero recall maybe one a month if lucky or an especially crazy dream. IMO weed and dream recall do not mix but i must say besides making you tired and maybe a little uninspired its not as bad as some make it out to be to each his own i guess

      within 2 days of quitting its all back though... Iam starting to believe some people's opinions of using it as a wilding tool in WOBTB situation

      not smoking and being wrapped up in this lucid thing again 2 1/2 weeks now has really messed up my sleeping (its 2 am right now went to bed at 10 30 woke up 5 minutes to write my dream at 12 ish and havent been able to fall asleep after tosiing and turning for an hour ....now i just get up and do something (like come here or play online poker)and go back to bed.

      funny thing is i dont feel like its messing up my days and dont feel extra tired at all ...is it possible i dont need 7 -8 hrs of sleep?
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      I would say I am a fairly constant user of marijuana (every day, only at night). When i first started to lucid dream, I would remember maybe one dream a week.This was about 3-4 months ago. Now I remember at least 3 dreams a week and I have had over 15 lucids so far. I'm pretty sure if I would quit smoking, my dreams would be more vivid and I would get more lucid dreams. I believe marijuana makes it harder to lucid dream but not impossible. It's just an other barrier to get over.

      I do get alot stronger HI when I go to sleep high though, and fall into sleep paralysis faster too.
      You loose yourself, you reappear
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      For me, whether or not I can have LD's depends more on how well rested I am. The less tied my brain is, the better my chances. I've had the most luck with DEILD's or WBTB's. Of course, I've had equal success with a W&B BTB

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      however, garlic might....

      back in the day, when i did that sort of thing, i found it destroyed my ability to become lucid or recall any dreams....i am, however, coming to the conclusion that eating garlic before bed seems to stimulate and enhance dreaming, and hence, recall...i would be curious if anyone has any experience with other foods, herbs, etc, that does the same for them...

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      Marijuana actually reduces the amount of dreams you have a lot....I read it in a book (cough cough)

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      Quote Originally Posted by general-david View Post
      Marijuana actually reduces the amount of dreams you have a lot....I read it in a book (cough cough)
      lol what book? I think it just annihilates dream recall, not the actual dreams themselves.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mfratt View Post
      PS. Admins, if this discussion is not allowed, please forgive me and close the thread, I'm just curious as to other people's experiences with marijuana and lucid dreaming.
      At the moment, this is our policy on drugs:


      Posting pictures of drugs or tools used to take/make drugs and discussing how to take/make drugs is prohibited.
      Discussion of drugs that pertain only to dreaming are allowed.


      I'd say you're fine. Just use common sense; if it's an illegal drug, you may not want to advertise where you are getting it, ect. ect. just as you wouldn't want to advertise any other illegal activity.



      When it comes to weed, though--it's bad for memory. Recall is the foundation of dreaming. When recall goes, so does everything else. No matter how awesome and vivid your dreams might get, it's all for nothing if you can't remember them. For that reason, if you're looking for something to enhance vividness, I'd recommend trying something else.

      Also, not to be knocking lucid aids and supplements, but if you stick with the basic techniques and practice them consistently, your dreams will get more vivid, I promise.

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