Thread: WILD With No BTB?

When falling asleep at night I can get past the point where I hear loud noises that are only in my head. I then get visuals that are vivid. For example before I went to bed I was watching Dragonball and I was clearly seeing Dragonball characters fight in my head. At this point it feels like my breathing is on automatic and I get a really strong feeling that I'm running out of breath and that I need to take over. I usually give up at this point.

My question is how do I reach the next level and what is the next level? This is without back-to-bed.

Omg that avatar is crazy.

We don't usually recommend WILDing without WBTB simply because people don't normally fall into REM right at the beginning of the night. It takes a few hours for REM to begin, which is the stage of sleep where we dream.

I got to the same point as you, so im going to try it with a wbtb.

PS: I really dont get by people have scary avatars and signatures, on a site where everyone is so big into dreaming...

But i suppose it gives us new monsters to fight.=P

Hehe... Thank you for the responses and enjoy the full pic of the avatar.

Needed to see that...[/sarcasm]

You could try FILDing, which is sort of like WILDing without BTB, you have to wake up though, so maybe not.