WILD With No BTB?

**ScroLL-X** · 02-06-2008 06:31 PM

When falling asleep at night I can get past the point where I hear loud noises that are only in my head. I then get visuals that are vivid. For example before I went to bed I was watching Dragonball and I was clearly seeing Dragonball characters fight in my head. At this point it feels like my breathing is on automatic and I get a really strong feeling that I'm running out of breath and that I need to take over. I usually give up at this point.

My question is how do I reach the next level and what is the next level? This is without back-to-bed.

**Mes Tarrant** · 02-06-2008 07:13 PM

Omg that avatar is crazy.

We don't usually recommend WILDing without WBTB simply because people don't normally fall into REM right at the beginning of the night. It takes a few hours for REM to begin, which is the stage of sleep where we dream.

**Dizko** · 02-06-2008 07:57 PM

I got to the same point as you, so im going to try it with a wbtb.

PS: I really dont get by people have scary avatars and signatures, on a site where everyone is so big into dreaming...

But i suppose it gives us new monsters to fight.=P

**ScroLL-X** · 02-06-2008 10:06 PM

Hehe... Thank you for the responses and enjoy the full pic of the avatar.

**Dizko** · 02-06-2008 10:07 PM

Needed to see that...[/sarcasm]

**Vegan** · 02-06-2008 10:12 PM

You could try FILDing, which is sort of like WILDing without BTB, you have to wake up though, so maybe not.

**Harrycombs** · 02-07-2008 03:27 AM

I hear that some people can do that. I have been trying but to no avail

**Zimmerman** · 02-07-2008 12:50 PM

Just the picture I needed to see during a WBTB... hope that doesn't make its way into tonights dreams

I've gotten to the point where I hear noises and feel vibrations without WBTB, but only after having had some sleep have I ever successfully WILDed. Some people have done it but the general consensus is that it's always easier if you do WBTB + WILD.