Well waking life is one of my favorite films and i was just wondering if anyone has tried to create 360 degree vision like one of the characters in the film was talking about, if so please elaborate id love to hear about this!
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Well waking life is one of my favorite films and i was just wondering if anyone has tried to create 360 degree vision like one of the characters in the film was talking about, if so please elaborate id love to hear about this!
that a great idea ive never thought about. it might be really hard and it will probably cause me to have an arial view type thing, know what i mean? worth trying though.
Ya i get what you mean man, have you seen waking life though? If not i would defiantly recommend watching it. Watching it blazed is even better!
I doubt that it would be possible, even in a lucid dream. A dream still uses the five senses, it just reroutes the input from the real world to the dreamscape. The sense of sight is still the same in a dream as it is in real life... not 360.
But don't let me discourage you, for it could very well be possible in a lucid dream :happyface:
I read in a self-hypnosis book that everything is possible in lucid dreams. They give the example of 360° vision. The only limit is your imagination, so if you want 360° vision, you must be able to imagine it :D
Awesome film! It gave me my first LD so I find it my duty to atempt 360° vision.
You should see Slacker too, it gives a new twist to Waking Life (hell, see all of Linklater's films and while you're at it see The Science of Sleep, Mirrormask and Paprika :))
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I believe 360 vision is possible. Maybe unimaginable in waking life, but while dreaming it may be easier. The problem is people will imagine it differently. So if one person comes up and says "yeah, I've done it" they may have imagined it as the aerial view type thing that Michael was saying. Whereas I would imagine it as having 4 or more sets of eyes around my head and seeing out of all of them simultaneously.
Good to be back,
Tommo
This subject of 360 degree vision has been brought up so many times, there are tons of old threads that have gone over 360 degree vision.
There are certain crabs and bugs with 360 degree vision. Why not change into one of those and see what your brain comes up with for the 360 degree vision.
That is really a great idea!Quote:
Originally Posted by Phalangees
So has almost every other topic about LD'ing. Newbies don't know that it's been brought up and if they went to old threads people would be pissed because they bumped old threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucid Seeker
Phalangees what are these crabs, never heard of em before....
Can they see back into their skull?
http://www.duke.edu/~jspippen/nature...6-6926obxz.jpg
Got this information from here: http://www.duke.edu/~jspippen/nature.../ghostcrab.htmQuote:
With stalked eyes, Ghost Crabs have 360 degree vision and are well adapted to see predators, such as gulls, from above.
It's possible, though each time I've tried I've failed. It's something I'd really like to do though.
Even though I've never accomplished it, I love this idea, but I have a variation. Try becoming a floating sphere with "vision all around (for lack of a better phrase)."
Im sure you can do it if you try!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex D
This is what I came up with for 360 vision; just a minuscule little sphere. Probably harder to do though, I think this would be a final step because it would be the most hard to imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight_haze
Phalangees - Technically that's not 360 vision, those eyes couldn't look at the ground. Although I suppose it depends on if you're talking about 360 on a 2D or 3D level; and furthermore if you want to see everything at the same time or bit-by-bit.
If it is bit-by-bit you could argue that we already have 360 vision since we can turn our heads around lol. This crab would be a good starting point though; since it can see all around (except for down) at the same time.
Peace,
Tommo
if uve ever messed around in a first person shooter game... type in fov 360 as a command in the command console... its not exactly the most pretty thing u can do. its kind of like fish eye lens its all distorted. that might be from the square picture but still its not the easiest thing to walk in.
True, but that's only because it's all stretched out, plus you aren't used to it. I can only look through one eye due to lazy eye and a lot of people just can't look through both eyes for some reason, if it suddenly changed and they could look through both, I assume it would be weird. It should be the same for having more than two eyes and looking through all of them at the same time. Maybe in a LD you could get two eyes to work at the same time, then get used to it, then go to 3 etc etc. Until you have eyes all around you head. Then you could modify it if you wanted to. i.e Floating sphere idea.
Well, I hate to burst your bubble, but I don't think 360 vision, (as we think about it in waking life) can be acomplished in an LD. Remember, you'll only be able to focus on one "eye" at a time, so really it will be pretty much the same as normal vision, or, glanching through one "eye" at a time.
Someone brought up an aerial view of 360 degrees around you, I think that would work, but seeing constantly all around, like your eye is a roll of film stretched all around you, I don't think would work, since really, we can't imagine it...kind of like we can't imagine new colors that aren't on the visible spectrum...
Give it a try though, let us know how it goes.
360 vision? So that includes down your neck?
Well you could have many eyes surrounding your head and switch eyes at a rapid rate?
Now that made me laugh! LOL! :laughhard:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Question
Now, back to the point. I personally do think that 360 degree vision is possible. I haven't tried it yet so I'll have to if I get another LD. :D
there are animals that have skin that are sensitive to light.. so make ur skin sensitive to light and make it so ur head can quick look at things... that way u are completly aware of whats behind you... ur skin sensitive to light would be somewhat like peripheral vision i guess.
What about Neij Hyyuga ( Blame my friend for this ) From Naruto? His Byukugan or however you spell allows him to see almost 360 Degrees around him. Watch a Clip of him on Youtube and ( I don't know if this will work I'm just trying to be helpful ) Try to recreate it.
I tried to get 360 vision once, what I did was concentrate on my visual perspective and then morph it out to the sides. I never got full 360 vision but I did expand my field of vision significantly.
WoW nice thats certainly a start good idea man!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Belisarius
Yeah, that's basically how one needs to imagine it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Belisarius
I can actually picture it perfectly well believe it or not. I think about my peripheral vision on the sides. While staring straight ahead I think of what the room looks like at those sides, left and right at the same time. Then I think of the room further to the sides and back. I can imagine that well also. I keep visualizing all the way to the back while also realizing the front. My imaginary vision is displaying with what I actually see, so I can basically imagine the 360 view as it would occur. You have to diassociate from your point of focus, and imagine if you did not focus on a point but rather saw everything clearly. You could add upper and lower vision as well if you could keep the thought together in your head properly.
I'll have to try finding a Spherical Photonic Optical Conversion Channeler in a dream somewhere to put on my head. :lol:
Then again, I've always wanted to know just what these guys see themselves, and I wouldn't mind having the set of wings either:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...und_eyes02.jpg
nice... dialup freindly... pic :/
each one of them black dots is a pupil pretty much... its like a buntch of holes ur looking through, atleast thats what people who study them think
Well, who says you can only focus on one eye at a time? Nobody has proved it. Also, I know it's an analogy but some people can see other colours on the spectrum which aren't visible to most people. And some other people who can't in waking life claim to have seen it in a normal dream or lucid dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by bro
Drasnus - 360 vision? So that includes down your neck?
Yes it does, but that's why some of us said you could be a tiny little ball.
However, some people just imagine 360 vision as all around you horizontally; panoramic all the way around you and seeing it all at the same time.
EDIT: Ditto Ahhchuu. But of course we can't really know what they see. But still, it proves a bigger peripheral vision is definately possible. I for one am not going to give up unless someone give good evidence why it cannot happen.
WHO'S WITH ME!!?? no one.... oh, ok.... it's just me then :( :'(
Cheers, Tommo
if i start lding more ill test it out... im still working on flying :) i dunno what ill do after that.
Next time I have a lucid dream I think I'm gonna try this. I'll close one eye, then slowly open the other eye. Then I'll imagine a third eye next to my newly opened eye opening and so on. This is of course after getting a good look at my surroundings first so my brain knows what's out there to look at.
I had 360 degree vision once in what, I then assumed, was an out of body experience. I'm thinking now though that it was some sort of freaky LD because I was aware that my body was still asleep and laying on the bed listening to music. But I didn't know what the hell was happening to me.
Anyway, I lifted from my bed, shut out my vision somehow because I was afraid and didn't know what was happening. When I looked again I was suspended in what looked like the middle of the universe. I could see in all directions at once, surrounded by millions of twinkling stars and galaxies. I had a total awareness of everything around me. I can't even begin to explain how it worked or the sensations accociated to it but it was amazing to say the least.
I'd love to experience it again.
Holy F*#!:shock::huh2::holycrap::yddd::goodjob2:
That must have been so awesome....
Thats awesome!!! Well we know its possible then!!! This calls for a.....dancing muffin squad!!! :muffin::muffin::muffin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vex Kitten