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      Question Is "Hotel California" a Lucid Dream?

      Hey,

      Just the other day i was listening to "Hotel California" and thinking about trying a WILD, when it struck me...

      Is the whole song about a Lucid Dream?

      I mean, just listen to it and think about lucid dreaming. could everything could be a metaphor for a lucid dream?

      just listen to it, think about lucidity, and lets hear what you think.

      Thanks
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      Ha, I like the way you think. That's certainly an interesting interpretation.

      However, I believe they're said before that it's about materialism, particularly in California.
      "Of course it is all happening inside your head...but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?"

      ~Albus Dumbledore, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

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      I've always heard that it's about a "house of ill repute".

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      I've always heard it was someone on a bad high.. "warm smell of colitas"..

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      actually its about a hotel in "Baja California" mexico, near "La Paz".
      Beautifull hotel really, been there myself

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      I love that song!

      Actually, I really do see some relationship to a lucid dream, although I doubt it's about one.

      (coke)

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      it's more like a horror movie LOL

      but I'm a creep so my opinion doesn't count
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      On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair
      Warm smell of colitas, rising up through the air
      Up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light
      My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
      I had to stop for the night

      There she stood in the doorway;
      I heard the mission bell
      And I was thinking to myself,
      ’this could be heaven or this could be hell’
      Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way
      There were voices down the corridor,
      I thought I heard them say...

      It sure sounds like it could be. I'll never look at that song in the same way again. The way it get surreal after this line is so amazing and so like a lucid dream!!! Cool!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Seeker View Post
      It sure sounds like it could be. I'll never look at that song in the same way again. The way it get surreal after this line is so amazing and so like a lucid dream!!! Cool!
      OMFG an administrator is replying to MY thread.... im speechless...

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      I've never thought about it. I'm curious to know if "Good Girls Go to Heaven" by Meat Loaf is about lucid dreaming.

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      I love that song, its a classic. People tell me its evil though. And a couple of years ago I had a car accident while listening to it.
      When I dream, theres always a
      little girl playing in the dirt, that
      turns to me and says "Why are
      you here? .... Are you blind like
      me?"

      What I've found
      What I've known
      Never shined to me what I've shown
      Never be
      Never free
      I wish to see what might have been...
      ...So I talk to you unbeliever.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Soul_Sleeper View Post
      OMFG an administrator is replying to MY thread.... im speechless...

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      I wouldn't get too excited. I think you're looking too deeply into it.

      There's as many theories about its meaning as there are people trying to decode it. For instance, suppossedly there's a rumor that it's about Satanism. I've heard many times that it's about a prostitution house.

      One hotel claims they were called "Hotel California" at the time and that the Eagles once stayed there.

      Others claim it to be about heroin addiction. Other theories include that it's about a mental hospital, cocaine addiction, or a fireworks factory in "the town of Colitas in Greece".

      There are countless other theories. But, read what the Eagles themselves had to say about it.

      In the end, it has only the meaning the listener gives it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tmer View Post
      actually its about a hotel in "Baja California" mexico, near "La Paz".
      Beautifull hotel really, been there myself
      Yes, I had been living near to it for 8 years. It's pretty much abandoned now. I'm not sure whether the song is taken from there, or the name of the hotel from the song... or neither of both

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      I think the song is about drugs. They stab it with their steely knives...
      Just can't kill the beast...

      Up ahead in the distance i saw a shimmering light...

      its all about drugs and trying to quit.
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      "How To Disappear Completely" by Radiohead IS a song about a Lucid Dream Thom Yorke (lead singer) had. Read the lyrics...very very cool stuff. Perhaps my favorite Radiohead song of all time and not until a few weeks ago did I realize what it was actually about.
      "Am I falling asleep, is it all just a dream? When the cars are like water, and the road is like a stream..."

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      hey I just learned the start of Hotel California cuz i got a Capo today!

      w00t!

      it's pretty easy though just chords with strange picking style.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Liero_26 View Post
      I think the song is about drugs. They stab it with their steely knives...
      Just can't kill the beast...

      Up ahead in the distance i saw a shimmering light...

      its all about drugs and trying to quit.

      There is also a part saying, "You can check out, but you can never leave"

      It is about drugs

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      I've never been a big fan of the song but after reading this thread and googling the lyrics I found that this bit ...

      Last thing I remember, I was
      Running for the door
      I had to find the passage back
      To the place I was before
      ’relax,’ said the night man,
      We are programmed to receive.
      You can checkout any time you like,
      But you can never leave!

      could have well been describing one of the not so good recurring dreams I get. LOL I check out from the dream time and time again but always find myself back there.

      I suppose a person could read anything into the lyrics, but I don't think I will be able to hear it anymore without thinking of my recurring dream lol

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      What I've heard mainly is that it's about drugs, like Liero said. This seems to work well with most of the song. " Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way", they say this could mean lighting up a joint. "Steely knives", seringues. "You can check out any time you like but you can never leave", once you start you can quit but in the end you're still a drug user, if you know what I mean. There's a lot more of this imagery throughout the song, so that's really what I think it's about, although it's open to interpretation and this is an interesting idea, though I doubt that was their original meaning.

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      Try reading the link I provided where the band members themselves talk about it...

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      Well the creators can say what they ment or wanted for the song to be seen as. But famous musicians always have a secret drug life. It must have gotten reflected on the song even if they intended for it or not, many do this to express a message that isn't up to social standards, but did it as a way to secretly express it without judgement. But yeah, I guess we have to go with what they have to say, we must believe what the creator has said from the beginning. For if the truth is not with the source then what are we suppost be believe.
      When I dream, theres always a
      little girl playing in the dirt, that
      turns to me and says "Why are
      you here? .... Are you blind like
      me?"

      What I've found
      What I've known
      Never shined to me what I've shown
      Never be
      Never free
      I wish to see what might have been...
      ...So I talk to you unbeliever.

      I walk in the rain. 1111

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      Quote Originally Posted by IZ View Post
      But famous musicians always have a secret drug life.
      umm ya its usually not very secret lol... everyone knows famous people struggle with drugs quite often.
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      I think all of you guys are looking far too deep into it. I know in those days they used a lot of metaphors and meanings behind the lyrics (unlike nowadays, where they go "yo I'm a rappa from teh hood, I have loads of bitches and hoes, and I pop a cap in yo ass homie", or something*), but it doesn't have to mean anything! But if you guys are really going to interpret weird songs, Do this one.

      * No offense 50 cent! If you read this, please don't pop a cap in my ass. Pretty please with a cherry on top?
      Last edited by TweaK; 08-26-2007 at 10:04 AM.

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      I feel the same as TweaK does on the subject. While the lyrics may be abstract in nature, no doubt about that, many lyrics were at the time. It's just a nice quirk of the era.

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      Quick offtopic notice: I love your current avatar, D.

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