Sleeping in a dream?

[Theresa]

Just a thought- say you're in the middle of a lucid dream and consciously decide to try to lay down and go to sleep. Will you be able to fall asleep? If so, will you dream there, too?

[Troverman]

I did that once It was a wierd dream. lots of false aweakings.

[Revero]

Yes, this has happened to me a couple of times. I find I go to sleep instantly and find myself in another dream. What's more, I can remember deciding to go to sleep just seconds earlier so I instantly become lucid.

[Feeble Wizard]

Sometimes going to bed in a lucid dream will cause you to awaken. Once this happened to me, and later I heard that Stephen LaBerge wrote that going to sleep is one of the best ways to wake yourself up. However, I find that trying to do WILD in a dream will lead me to extremely impressive "hypnogogia" and some very interesting LDs.

[Oneiro]

Originally posted by Theresa Just a thought- say you're in the middle of a lucid dream and consciously decide to try to lay down and go to sleep. Will you be able to fall asleep? If so, will you dream there, too? Some years ago I read about an LD technique called "the double fixation", in which, while in a lucid dream, you lay down in the same position as your sleeping body, close your eyes, and go to sleep in the dream. The result is that you will re-awaken in the dream with much stronger control. You can do it over and over again and greatly increase your lucidity.

[a110100]

I heard the exact same thing as "Oneiro" about the double fixation from several individuals(including some of Carlos Castaneda's books). I tried it myself and it resulted in two different ways. When I started having lucid dreams again, I tried lying down and trying to go to sleep in the lucid dream, the first couple times I just woke up. After around three tries, I thought I had just awakened, but in fact I just had a false awkening. One particular night, I had three false awakenings in a row after trying to go to sleep in the first lucid dream. When I first started lucid dreaming, false awakenings would always get the best of me, when I would finally wake up it felt like I wasted my sleep on a non-lucid dreaming when the whole time I thought I was awake, I had just falsed awakened. The whole thing about double fixation is something I believe should be practiced after keeping a consistent diary of every dream, or after the expectation of every dream is going to be a lucid dream settles in. I find the double fixation technique of increasing vividness requires great focus, and the ability of recognizing the "feeling" of a dream to notice the difference in a false awakening, and a true awakening. If you can handle spinning in a Lucid Dream to start a new dream, you most likely can handle double fixation. -J