 Originally Posted by dd22qq
the whole point of sleep and dreaming involves an escape from that very version of me.
I don't think anyone here that works hard to have LDs will agree with it. It's more about going to a place where we can be free and fly and be creative and learn about the mind's nature.
 Originally Posted by dd22qq
the most intriguing aspect of sleeping and dreaming is the exploration of the subconscious. A shift in modes of reality, the entering of another realm if you like.
So, now you agree with me?
 Originally Posted by dd22qq
And in order for that to happen most effectively involves the complete abandonment of WSM. He's only going to interfere with the process. The less of a hold WSM has, the better.
So how can you 'explore' anything if you're not even aware of the reality you're in? If this 'WSM' is interfering it happens because he doesn't know enough about LDs. When you become lucid and know the basics about dream control you know there is nothing that can hold you back since you got your imagination.
 Originally Posted by dd22qq
And while asleep, dreaming me is a me I'm more interested in exploring than WSM.
You're assuming yourself is not the 'WSM'. If the person writing this was your 'WSM' there is no point on complaining if you wanna explore the dream just make your mind.
 Originally Posted by dd22qq
WSM would remove the purity of a dream.
Did you consider taking a shower? 
 Originally Posted by dd22qq
Dreams aren't for controlling or manipulating, they're for observing and experiencing.
 Originally Posted by dd22qq
Have I ever attempted lucid dreaming? No, and doubt I ever will. It flies in the face of everything I find intriguing and desirable about sleep and dreaming to begin with.
I recommend you just to read some dream journal entries so you can see what it is like LDing. You're stating many things and it seems like it's more about what you feel than about what you know, maybe you can realize that: you can live and feel anything you want if you are Lucid.
Good Luck
In my first LD a man was chasing me, I realized I was dreaming and I shoot him with my finger and he became frozen. It was a powerful experience and I'm glad I was there aware of anything, the only thing sad about it is that the dream didn't last longer. I tried to rub my hands and scream for a more vivid dream but it was too late.
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