Thread: The truth behind Lucid Dreaming - Experienced Lucid dreamers are needed

Originally Posted by dolphin

What is the Nemesis of Guide?

I can understand how the Nemesis of Guide would not want me to become lucid or gain control. However, it seems to me this would be by default because he would not want me to withdraw all my attention away from what he wants. Therefore, if I could gain lucidity and control without withdrawing all my attention on what the Nemesis of Guide wants, he would not care if I became lucid or had control.

How would one theoretically identify and/or correct this balance of yin and yang? What would be considered a balanced ratio of yin to yang?

Originally Posted by DawnEye11

Interesting. I know this was mentioned before but i agree that as lucid dreamers we can have similarities and differences when it comes to control or experience so saying that mirrors are used as portals and dream text is not stable doesn't apply to all. However, as I read your post I was reminded that as you grow as a lucid dreamer, if you spend little time on forums, you tend to formulate conclusions based on your experience. The problem with this is that sometimes our conclusions are wrong and hence why comparing it to other experiences helps us see if it was truly possible. Not that it's always wrong though.

I also agree that our dreaming mind sets up things in a controlled/random manner but there is no need to fight back with it for control because your dreaming mind isn't out to get you. Even if a dc attacks you. It is there to help you, sometimes to help you notice things of importance so have a peace of mind. If you feel like it is out to get you, it will happen because your mind set or belief can affect what happens in your dream. This was already said as well, just agreeing with it as my thoughts come up about what you wrote shifter.

In the end, you said we could be free from control so you probably already know that.I like to think that our dreaming mind is working to help us than stopping us from being lucid though. Not that we are always on the same page with our dreaming mind.
Hmm...Maybe It depends on your goal whether the dreaming mind is seeming like a "yin" or "yang" for you too. When I use intent to lucid dream I rely on my mind to help me so if my dream characters try to stop me after I become lucid it is ironic in a way. Still thinking about this but my yin is more of my fear in waking life that I carry on to my non lucid or lucid dreams. So like when my own thoughts and not the dream itself is causing an obstacle.

Since you asked, I lucid dream because ever since I was little lucid dreaming has been like a treasured gem. A secret place where I can uncover more truths about the meaning of life. I uncover truths because you can experience things in dreams you wouldn't be able to experience while awake. It also allows you to appreciate sleep more.

dolphin,DawnEye11
I said, I will only give you the truth, I did not say it would be easy. I can only show you the door, you are the these, that must pass through the it.

DawnEye11, you must reread mine posts more deeply, maybe you will understand more of it.

Dolphin, Nemesis is the other side of the coin. When you are not lucid most of the time he(yin) is in control of what is going on, of course yang is also there to help you. In Lucid Dream you are training your mind to gain control and dream Guide is there for you when you are ready, but his Nemesis won't stay still. He will try to regain control, like trying to prevent your lucidity in the ways I described. When you are already lucid, he will try to wake you up or to make you lose your lucidity. He can take on many forms (animals, vicious creature, monster, even natural disaster). I will give you short example of mine:

I become lucid in the dream(DILD) and started to roam freely and doing stuffs that disturb the natural order of the dream, when a police officer appear and said that he will arrest me for being lucid, and I must wake up now, but second man appeared(my guide) and said, that he guarantee for me. Then both man disappeared and I continue with my lucid dream.

I have many other examples, but they are a little too long.

DawnEye11 nobody is the same, that is why we have different experiences. About the mirrors and the text, some of us just have slightly different 'operating system', I am talking here about deep programing. The unconscious is a system, which is running a virtual reality(hrrr it is too complicated to be explain it with simple words) thanks to the 'operating system', that is just one of it's purpose. But these laws can be broken, like in a video game. When you are ready, there will be no need for you to obey the laws.(think about Neo of the Matrix) [that is an important part for my next post]

In the end both part of your subconscious are trying to help, there is not such thing as good and evil. They both are trying to make you better. I am talking here about evolution of the mankind. I think there is some 'forces' that preventing us to move on or maybe we are just not ready yet.

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Dolphin you are right here:

Therefore, if I could gain lucidity and control without withdrawing all my attention on what the Nemesis of Guide wants, he would not care if I became lucid or had control.

Because you have a simple desire, he will not care too much for you.

I like lucid dreaming because it is fun to experience things that are difficult or impossible for me to experience while I'm awake.