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      ^On the other hand, perhaps it is this automatic suggestion that is to be avoided, as it may lead exactly to blairbro's quasi-lucid scenario. The problem is that there is no way to empirically test the veracity of your memory in-dream short of waking yourself to confirm your recollection (an idea nobody here is keen on, I feel). This is a real Cartesian minefield (how do you know you do not dream of dreaming, and then dream of remembering your waking life, etc.?). I therefore suggest that the most fundamental gesture is the memory of a physical reality external to the dream (as has been suggested earlier in the thread) without opening the door to the obfuscations and gap-filling delusions of dream false memory which fogs lucidity. Of course, a semi-LD in which you falsely believe yourself to be sleeping in your childhood home is better than an LD in which you don't remember your sleeping body at all, and such a false memory could even prove a boon when attempting certain dream control tasks for the first time as an artificial confidence boost.

      But for our purposes (ie. opening the door to advanced lucidity), I think the best practice would resemble Yuschak's "breaking down the wall" exercise posted earlier by Nfri - remembering, with the use of mnemonics or otherwise, certain particulars of the day.

      EDIT: It has occurred to me that this topic may be thought of as the mirror movement to stabilisation as articulated in Mzzkc's stabilisation fundamentals thread.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ctharlhie View Post
      EDIT: It has occurred to me that this topic may be thought of as the mirror movement to stabilisation as articulated in Mzzkc's stabilisation fundamentals thread.
      How's that now?

      (still reading through thread--may have a proper response as late as Sunday)

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