Thread: Ready to give up.

Yeah Martakartus is absolutely right. Just keep trying hard enough and some day you will get it. I really meant it when I said that that single thread by Sageous is enough to achieve absolute mastery of the lucid dreaming skill. Here is a part of the intro.

Spoiler for Sageous self-awareness:

Self-awareness is nothing more -- or less -- than being aware that you are here, that you have an effect on everything around you, and everything around you has an effect on you. This sounds like a no-brainer, but it’s a lot harder to master than it sounds. Most people are content to live their entire lives without a moment of self-awareness, content to let the events of their world wash over them and to remain unaware of how the things they do and say touch those events…sort of living life like it’s a dream, I suppose. Perfecting self-awareness is simple: pay attention! Unfortunately, humans are naturally wired to not pay this sort of attention, so it takes a lot of work to stay focused and not lapse back into the easy strides taken by those who travel life without ever once checking the path.

A tip for improving memory

Spoiler for Sageous memory:

To improve memory? I recommend a trip to the bookstore or online store, because there's a lot of stuff available out there far beyond my meager suggestions. That said, I've found that getting into a habit of asking yourself what, exactly, you were doing fifteen minutes ago helps a lot. Also, you should always include an attempt to remember something (like, where is my sleeping body? What's the date today?) in your "becoming aware routine during the LD. Crappy answer, I know, but memory is a bear, and should be treated that way.

This thread is a lot to read and even more to think about about and even more to apply. If you still haven't given up, this should get get you wherever you want to go with LDing.

Originally Posted by Ginsan

Yeah Martakartus is absolutely right. Just keep trying hard enough and some day you will get it. I really meant it when I said that that single thread by Sageous is enough to achieve absolute mastery of the lucid dreaming skill. Here is a part of the intro.

Spoiler for Sageous self-awareness:

Self-awareness is nothing more -- or less -- than being aware that you are here, that you have an effect on everything around you, and everything around you has an effect on you. This sounds like a no-brainer, but it’s a lot harder to master than it sounds. Most people are content to live their entire lives without a moment of self-awareness, content to let the events of their world wash over them and to remain unaware of how the things they do and say touch those events…sort of living life like it’s a dream, I suppose. Perfecting self-awareness is simple: pay attention! Unfortunately, humans are naturally wired to not pay this sort of attention, so it takes a lot of work to stay focused and not lapse back into the easy strides taken by those who travel life without ever once checking the path.

A tip for improving memory

Spoiler for Sageous memory:

To improve memory? I recommend a trip to the bookstore or online store, because there's a lot of stuff available out there far beyond my meager suggestions. That said, I've found that getting into a habit of asking yourself what, exactly, you were doing fifteen minutes ago helps a lot. Also, you should always include an attempt to remember something (like, where is my sleeping body? What's the date today?) in your "becoming aware routine during the LD. Crappy answer, I know, but memory is a bear, and should be treated that way.

This thread is a lot to read and even more to think about about and even more to apply. If you still haven't given up, this should get get you wherever you want to go with LDing.

I had a look at the thread a while ago, I had never read it. Great thread. I love it when I find someone putting things in a different way, new insights are always welcome.