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      Now I really get it

      Ok, I know that one of the training methods for becoming lucid in a dream is the 'ol reality check thing: Perform it during your waking life and you will eventually start doing it in your dreams.

      Since I feel rather silly about taking the time during the day to try and breathe through my nose or push my finger through the palm of my hand, my reality checks have become as follows: "Hmmm, if I were dreaming right now, I'd try a reality check right now, but I know I'm not, so...."

      Well, last night I was taught a lesson.

      Dream:
      I was in a car with my mom and one of my sisters. That alone should have been a hint since my mom passed away some time ago. But anyway, we're out taking a drive in the country, and all around us and in the distance are these cloud columns, big stacks fo clouds extending from the ground to the sky - very much like tornado's (my most reliable dreamsign) only more cylindrical and not spinning. At this point I say out loud "This is definitely a time to do a reality check". As I think about which one I will try, I imediately then say "ahh, what the hell for, I know I'm awake!"

      F#%*@!!!!

      Well, will this change my waking RC behavior? - probably not. But at least I now get the whole point - waking behavior can definitely carry into the dreamworld.

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      Interesting story. Definitely teaches a lot of us to be more careful and serious about doing reality checks.

      But yeah, a lot of what we do in our waking life shows up in our dreams, one way or another. A lot of my dreams reflect the events of the day or even the past few days. Sometimes just tid bits of what happened or thoughts of mine during the day appear in the dream with other symbols. Remember, your subconscious is just a deeper part of your mind--basically the part we don't consciously use. I have heard stories from hypnotists. They would have their clients go for a walk down a street and view the shops and all. Then they write down what they can remember of what they saw. This is their conscious talking. But under hypnosis which taps into the subconscious, the clients were able to recall almost or if not everything that they witness. This is why hypnosis is so good to help in recalling repressed memories. Anyway, my point is, any thing you put into your mind consciously will stay there subconsciously. Heck, I am sure many of us had those dreams of events that happened to us long ago when we were children. Really cool stuff, if you ask me


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      hah...i used to do that to! but then i think something like that happened to me and then i changed my methods. Now you know to change what you do.

      Curiosity killed the cat but at least it didnt die an ignorant bastard

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      Actually, the only reason "Reality Checking" works so well is because it is a form of suggestion which people DO perform a great many times a day. ANY form of Suggestion to Lucid Dream would undoubtably be equally effective.

      You see, when the impulse to perform a Reality Check occurs in a Dream, it only occurs because the Dreaming Mind has consented to allow it, that is, the Dreaming Mind has decided to grant the Dreamer a Lucid Dream. The Dreaming Mind finally broke down under the weight of all of the Suggestions to Lucid Dream, expressed in all of those silly Reality Checks, and so decided to provide a Lucid Dream. One could have as easily, indeed, more easily have simply invested the same amount of time and practice in affirming and suggesting to one's self that he or she would have Lucid Dreams, that is, be aware in one's dreams that one is dreaming.

      We know this to be true because many people have Lucid Dreams without reality checks, and another great many people continue to have ordinary dreams despite reality checks and dream signs, etc. I becomes apparent to the discerning dreamer that the Dreams are deciding to become Lucid, not the Dreamer.

      so, why the great success of Reality Checking? Well, it is a form of Auto-suggestion that has as its basis a quasi-rational cause-effect proactive kind of appeal. It gives the Dreamer the illusion that he is actually empowered, and that by doing this 'technique' he may increase his Lucidity Rate. The Seminar People and the Old Timers of Lucid Dreaming know from experience that all techniques are reductable to Auto-Suggestion, but they also realize that people would rather engage in a form of Auto-Suggestion that would appeal to their own tastes and sense of aesthetics. What people will want to do will work better than what they don't care to do. Affirmations and Suggestions, which impore the Dreaming Mind to give one Lucid Dreams, seems too passive and servile to the modern Luciferian Personality, and so a technique was developed which would make the same Auto-Suggestion SEEM more active and demanding -- people would suppose that Lucidity was not finally brought to them as a gift, but that they somehow tricked their Higher Mind and took Lucidity like a raper takes a virgin.

      I think it as effective and more honest to simply implore the Higher Mind for Lucidity by a program of repeated sessions of Auto-Suggestion.

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      I think Leo has summed it up nicely
      Especially his third paragraph.


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      Originally posted by Dew Dust
      I think Leo has summed it up nicely
      Especially his third paragraph.
      the third big paragraph or the third one in the middle thats kinda smaller than usual?

      either way i agree too.
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      This one Jay dawg:

      We know this to be true because many people have Lucid Dreams without reality checks, and another great many people continue to have ordinary dreams despite reality checks and dream signs, etc. I becomes apparent to the discerning dreamer that the Dreams are deciding to become Lucid, not the Dreamer.
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      Ack--and I was trying not to block-quote


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      Originally posted by Dew Dust
      Ack--and I was trying not to block-quote
      ooops sorry >_<
      420/24/7/365 herb?

      <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mayhembrown)</div>
      i tried to fly but cudnt, so i went outside in the garden but still cudnt.. i then thought lets go and find a girl!

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