Either watch this entire video or skip to around 45:25 for exactly this subject.

I also typed it out for people who would rather read than listen.

Interviewer: I have an experience that I recently had that I've never had before that supports the holographic model, and one could call it a lucid dream. I came out of the dream and it was the first time I ever, uh, in coming into waking, thought that I was coming into a dream, and leaving the waking reality. The dream was so powerful, in other words, that it took a couple minutes to re-orient and realize that I was in waking reality, in other words I thought I was dreaming, and the dream had been waking.

Talbot: So the dream was in a sense more potent than everyday reality so this seemed like a lesser, a paler? comparison.

Interviewer: Exactly, exactly. What's the dream and what's real?

Talbot: Right. Well I think that's interesting because I talk a lot about near death experiences because another thing that the holographic idea suggest is there isn't necessarily just one reality — there are all different levels of reality. And I think near death research, and indeed, the entire mystical tradition has told us this is so. That this is all just one channel on a cosmic television set that we're inhabiting here. And one thing that comes through loud and clear when people have NDE where their heart stops or are declared clinically dead and they experience some of these other levels of reality. They always come back saying that they are more real than this reality, they're more vivid, they're more rich with information, and I think part of the reason we're in physical life, that we're incarnate to learn here, is that we're not yet ready for some of the intensity of some of these other levels, that we're learning. It's like a child who's reading a primer is not yet ready for Dickens or Dostoevsky or whatever. We're not ready for that density of information, so we're learning... we're getting our sea legs, so to speak. You mentioned Helen Wambach. Wambach always said that she thought being in this life was kind of like walking in a swamp up to your waist — that we were re here and it was really tough going — but the leg muscles that you developed in doing that, once you left this level and went to another level, you had all sorts of capabilities 'cause you really developed these powerful leg muscles, figuratively speaking. And I think there's a lot of truth to that, that sometimes in our dreams we glimpse these other levels of reality, and I think what you may have been doing was experiencing that part of reality that is far more dazzling than this one, that we're preparing ourselves for.[/QUOTE]