Thread: The Skeptics

I have a friend, who whenever I tell him that about Lucid Dreams, he always dismisses it as a bunch of crap. I even said that I had one, and he thinks I'm lying. What the hell is his problem? What's so hard to believe about this?

I'd say don't bother telling him about it anymore...

yeah your friend sounds like a major dumbass with an extremely low IQ. dont worry u can ditch him for us

The hardest part to believe is that you can control your dreams and do whatever you want to. If you go and tell someone: "Hey, did you know that you can do anything you want to in your dreams if you realize that you're dreaming?" they aren't too likely to believe it. You should try to logically prove that it's possible.

The most common example is propably nightmares. I think most people have nightmares and sometimes they realize that it's only a dream and that they can wake themselves up.

I like the following logic: Dreams are creations of your own mind. If you're conscious, you can control your mind. Because dreams are creations of your own mind, you can control them supposing that you're conscious.

If they accept that logic, the only problem is being conscious during their dreams, but the nightmare example should take care of that too. You could also say that lucid dreaming is scientifically proven and tell about Stephen LaBerge and his experiments.

Anyway, some people might not be interested in lucid dreaming and if so, it's not worth bothering to try and tell them about this wonderful phenomenon.

I don't see what's so hard to believe about it. I mean, its not like you are telling him you can move things with your mind or control wind, water, and fire.

Constantly ask him if he is dreaming. When he says he is not, ask him how he knows, and then tell him to really make sure. Ask him what happens when he tries to float off the ground, and then ask him if floating off the ground would be absolute evidence that he is dreaming. Eventually, he will dream about the incident and realize he is dreaming. You can also tell him how to have WILDs and get him to try it. You might want to offer to try something off the wall he believes in in return for his trying to lucid dream. I get people to read my favorite political books by offering to in return read one of theirs.

2 of the people that didn't believe me had lucid dreams a night or two after I told them about it. Quite amusing really.
Tell him about Stephen Laberge and the scientific evidence + experiments that have been done - how does he disregard that? Mainstream science accepts lucid dreaming as fact. So he's the kooky one if he wants to be difficult about it.

I would say don't care about him. Keep LD'ing

Yeah, it's his loss. It's like this religious friend of mine who has never had a drop of alcohol. Teetotalling is one thing but never having had any at all? Crazy. But it's his loss, and it's the same with people who choose to disregard scientific proof of lucid dreaming. Anyone who has an illusion that LDing is anything but fact is missing out.