Living a seperate life?

Well, I have been thinking about this for a while now, but I want to make sure that it is safe. I have been thinking about actually living out a lifetime in the dreamscape. I've been trying to slow time in my dreams. Like, making 2 minutes feel like a day. But I'm wanting to do this on a much bigger scale. I am talking about making 5 minutes or just one dream feel like 75-100 years. I think I could benefit from this. Living a entire life, and then being able to wake up young would be amazing. Has anyone tried to do this themselves? Is this a unhealthy thing to try to accomplish?

What I am trying to achieve here is my own form of "Immortality" I guess. I asked a friend about it who also has lucid dreams, and he just looked at me as though I were insane for wanting to do such a thing. I just want some peoples opinions on this.

Can you make time stop?

Well I know that you can extend the dream time.
But making it seem like a lifetime seems challenging but I think it could be possible. If you want to slow down dream time you need to completely forget about your feelings that your real body is feeling. That should make your LD longer.

But I think it could be possible, why not try it? Just stabilize the dream and forget about the outside world.

That's my best guess, good luck!

Although it isn't lucid dreaming, athletes at very high levels of play and other people who engage in timing and speed critical activities can probably cite at least once when it felt like everything was moving much slower than it actually was because their reaction time was at a peak. If something like that is similar, at least for a split second, I imagine you would be able to extend how long it actually feels in a lucid dream.

Whether or not you could extend that for a longer period than an extra half hour/hour is another thing entirely. There have been testimonies of people like monks (If I remember right from an old thread years ago on DV) of living hundreds of years in an LD, but there is no way to confirm whether or not the guy actually pulled it off.

If one was to live out an entire lifetime in their dream (hypothetically speaking), when they woke up, they probably wouldn't remember anything from real life, like their friends' names, etc. Reality wouldn't have changed that much because you wouldn't spend that long sleeping (although the dream time would be massive), but it's a big gamble if you were able to somehow do this. What if you were to forget?

Memory aside, I don't think it's possible to stretch out a dream that much. For me, 30 minutes is pushing it; for others it's more, but 75+ years... No.

The flow of time in your dream world is the same as in the real world. This was proven by Stephen Laberge some time ago. I wonder if dreaming that long would actually damage your physiology or not..

Instead of living out your whole life in 1 go, try to do it in separate bursts of dreams (depending on how long you can sustain each dream). Have fun experimenting.

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Originally Posted by ThePieMan

Instead of living out your whole life in 1 go, try to do it in separate bursts of dreams (depending on how long you can sustain each dream). Have fun experimenting.

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That's what I do! I like to live a piece of my second life in each LD I have. Unless I can't transport to a specific location or summon someone in particular... In that case, I fly off and spike my adrenaline until the dream fades. :P

Maybe once or twice in my lifetime, have I come across a non lucid dream in which i felt like years have passed. I wake up feeling sad becuase all tha relationships i had formed disolved and at that time i had preceived those relationships to be real. I was left to wonder how do i get back? In general i sleep maybe 7 to 8hrs a day but my non lucid dreams always feel like a full 24 hour day when in reality my REM period was only 2- 3 hrs. Personally i think if your lucid you should be able to control your own perception of how much time has passed in the astral dream scape. You could consult your guide or higher self. Or you could simply use your will power to manipulate the time of your experience. Ex: you say---- "Higher self slow down my percepton of time" Play with commands see what happens. namaste :)

I'm not sure it's possible, but if it is, I think it would be safe as long as you don't neglect your waking life.
ThePieMan's idea of living a lifetime in more than one dream sounds like a good idea.

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Originally Posted by ThePieMan

The flow of time in your dream world is the same as in the real world. This was proven by Stephen Laberge some time ago. I wonder if dreaming that long would actually damage your physiology or not..

Instead of living out your whole life in 1 go, try to do it in separate bursts of dreams (depending on how long you can sustain each dream). Have fun experimenting.

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Time is a weird thing when dreaming. After being lucid for about a perceived hour i had a false awakening and might have dreamed for 2 days. Either way i know a lot of stuff happened it's just that i don't remember it. I do remember going to sleep in my dream 2 times and it really felt like i dreamed for 2 days.

Anyway when i really woke up i had only slept for ONE hour .. Are you completely 100% sure they have proven that time in dreams is the same as it is in reality?

It's not possible, sorry.

wow, what a fascinating idea!

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Originally Posted by dreamcatcher81

Maybe once or twice in my lifetime, have I come across a non lucid dream in which i felt like years have passed. I wake up feeling sad becuase all tha relationships i had formed disolved and at that time i had preceived those relationships to be real. I was left to wonder how do i get back? In general i sleep maybe 7 to 8hrs a day but my non lucid dreams always feel like a full 24 hour day when in reality my REM period was only 2- 3 hrs. Personally i think if your lucid you should be able to control your own perception of how much time has passed in the astral dream scape. You could consult your guide or higher self. Or you could simply use your will power to manipulate the time of your experience. Ex: you say---- "Higher self slow down my percepton of time" Play with commands see what happens. namaste :)

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There have been reports of people spending a hundred years in a dream.

Yes, experiments with time extension failed.

HOWEVER, as dreamcatcher points out, time extension may be experienced more in terms of feeling. A 100 years will not be a rational sequence of day after day filled with activity. It will be a feeling which envelops you and lets you feel those 100 years passing in an instant. I'm not sure you are after this kind of a feeling.

I can recall one instance where I thought I was meditating at a side of a stream in a dream for 4 hours. Yet the recall of this event collapses into a single sentence: meditated for 4 hours.

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Originally Posted by Zee

Well, I have been thinking about this for a while now, but I want to make sure that it is safe. I have been thinking about actually living out a lifetime in the dreamscape. I've been trying to slow time in my dreams. Like, making 2 minutes feel like a day. But I'm wanting to do this on a much bigger scale. I am talking about making 5 minutes or just one dream feel like 75-100 years. I think I could benefit from this. Living a entire life, and then being able to wake up young would be amazing. Has anyone tried to do this themselves? Is this a unhealthy thing to try to accomplish?

What I am trying to achieve here is my own form of "Immortality" I guess. I asked a friend about it who also has lucid dreams, and he just looked at me as though I were insane for wanting to do such a thing. I just want some peoples opinions on this.

Can you make time stop?

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There is no way that's possible. I don't want to be a downer but there is no way it could last this long. 2 hours seems a bit to long for just a bad perception of time.

That's my belief anyway.

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Originally Posted by Ev

There have been reports of people spending a hundred years in a dream.

Yes, experiments with time extension failed.

HOWEVER, as dreamcatcher points out, time extension may be experienced more in terms of feeling. A 100 years will not be a rational sequence of day after day filled with activity. It will be a feeling which envelops you and lets you feel those 100 years passing in an instant. I'm not sure you are after this kind of a feeling.

I can recall one instance where I thought I was meditating at a side of a stream in a dream for 4 hours. Yet the recall of this event collapses into a single sentence: meditated for 4 hours.

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There is no way that you should believe every report you read. I completely agree with puffin. Maybe in some dreams you have some false memories that you think was part of a dream but wasn't. But even then you should know that it wasn't a year of dream time.

Thank you all for your input. It seems as though most peoples concern is that I would forget all about my real life. Well, to be honest, there really isn't much I want to remember. I would be perfectly content with waking up and not remembering a thing.

I have been lucid dreaming for over 5 years now. I have done almost everything I have wanted to do. But it really just gets better the more I do it. I have practiced slowing down time in my dream to the point that I can have it feel like a whole day. I was just making sure that there wasn't any actual health problems I could encounter by eventually making them last even longer.

I am considering being a full-time member of this forum and posting my progress/results.

Too much of any good thing is bad for you. Your idea, I believe, is mis-using the skill of lucid dreaming and is not wise nor healthy.

It would be of more concern if it was actually possible, which it is not (not to that extent, anyway). Dreams are just that, dreams. Do not get lost in them, or place them above reality. Reality is what matters.

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Originally Posted by Dthoughts

Time is a weird thing when dreaming. After being lucid for about a perceived hour i had a false awakening and might have dreamed for 2 days. Either way i know a lot of stuff happened it's just that i don't remember it. I do remember going to sleep in my dream 2 times and it really felt like i dreamed for 2 days.

Anyway when i really woke up i had only slept for ONE hour .. Are you completely 100% sure they have proven that time in dreams is the same as it is in reality?

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Squeenix is correct. That test bears the most conclusive results about time in lucid dreams in the lucid dream community.

It may be possible, yes, but I'm not sure it'd be a good idea. Like InsaneKid said, too much of a good thing is bad for you. Imagine the impact it'd have on you emotionally and mentally if you woke up from a dream that long. I can't even imagine how that'd feel. Plus, as it's been brought up before, living out an entire life in an LD, and then waking up may cause some memory loss or forgetfulness about certain things in your real life. It's a gamble, and if I were you, I wouldn't want to be away from my real life that long. Lucid dreaming is amazing and everything, but it's a bit risky to give up things in real life for stuff in a dream.

I think it's something that would take a lot of time and effort to extend your dream length to that extreme, but I think it is possible (maybe not an entire lifetime), or so I've heard. I think as you have more LDs and have more experience controlling them, you might learn how to extend them to a greater extent. I don't have too much experience with lucid dreaming (a little)... so I'm going to focus on having consistent LDs before I start living a separate life. :shock:

A lot of people keep saying that dream time is the same as real time, which is true, bit you forget about time dilation. Although I don't believe one can live an entire life, they could possibly do like a a day or maybe a week if they were to skip a lot of things during the day, and skip going to sleep.

this is somthing i have thought about alot. in alot of dreams (mainly non lucid but one lucid) a elfen witch follows me around and controlls my dreams for me, in my next lucid i want to try having her (who by now is pretty much a god in my dreams) speed up everything around her, including me. that way there is somthing in my dream that is still in real time, but i can still run around and do whatever i want in extended time.

It's all about perception. Humans remember relevant memories. Have you remembered EVERY TIME you drove to work/school? No, but you did recall the one time they threw you an office party for your birthday. Dreams fundamentally "cut out" those irrelevant parts, and often change our perception of time. I've had lucid dreams that have felt abnormally extended to last a "day or so". However, when I look back I don't remember sitting down for any meals, or walking anywhere I ended up.

It does sometimes feel like the time scales differ from real life to the dream world. But I don't think it would be possible to do it to that extent. There are also several other problems with this; one of the main ones being that trying to keep things stabilised for 100 years in dream-time, that's going to be quite a challenge. Otherwise, there's no need to be worried. You can always wake yourself up from the dream should the need arise :)

I personally believe that its not possible, however; i think you should go for it and stretch your mind as far as possible. Whether there are negative health effects or not, strive to live your life as an outlier. If you even have a chance at being the person to change the game completely, do it.

With practice you can stretch an LD out to seem like a busy day. Most of this is because of an illusion called time diolation.

The actual dream time is rarely much more than 90 minutes. By mental tricks you can feel like it has been a day or so.

Mostly it is done by honest deseption. Example: a log walk dream. Irl the walk takes ninty minutes. In the dream you say things to reinforce the idea of a long walk,,, but you cut off huge sections of the walk. May e you pas the five house that stand out, dont add the 200 houses that do no matter. So you do the long walk and it take seven minutes real time, but from a dream proscective you went on a ninty minute walk