Lucid Dreams after a week of being awake?

**r4nd33** · 03-27-2011 04:26 PM

So i read that the more you are asleep the more you dream and the longer you dream and the better chance of a lucid dream is?

So how about staying up for 5 days + ( i know this is dangerous and can do alot of damage etc, please dont say anything on those lines) and then going to sleep surely you will need alot of sleep to get back to normal therefore a higher chance of lucid dream / longer lucid dream etc??

**Matte87** · 03-27-2011 04:33 PM

Are you sure you will have the willpower to be able to remember them and have the intention of actually getting lucid when you're that sleep deprived? I think not. But if you sleep long enough and actually do write down some dreams, then hmm, no idea but why not? A REM rebound works like that, sleep 3 hours one day and 13 the next. You'll have tons of dreams the next day. I would never suggest you try something like that out, but if you do, post your results

**r4nd33** · 03-27-2011 04:34 PM

I was just wondering if staying awake for longer than normal then sleeping for longer than normal could up your chances of a better lucid dream

**rynkrt3** · 03-27-2011 04:48 PM

It won't increase your chance to lucid dreams, sure you will have more dreams, but in the end, its not about that. Don't be impatient with lucid dreaming. It's a skill that takes practice and dedication, but is totally worth it.

**Jay12341235** · 03-27-2011 05:28 PM

You know what does the same thing? WBTB

Sleep for six or so hours, get up for 1 or 2, then try to induce a lucid dream. You'll have much better results and you probably won't regret it as much

**rynkrt3** · 03-27-2011 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by Jay12341235

You know what does the same thing? WBTB

Sleep for six or so hours, get up for 1 or 2, then try to induce a lucid dream. You'll have much better results and you probably won't regret it as much

-Hits the nail on the head-

**dakotahnok** · 03-27-2011 06:32 PM

Okay let me start with this.

REM starts out as really short times. I think the first one is 10-15 minutes. Then as the night progresses they get longer and more vivid. So by the end of the night there about an hour long.

So in theory if you stop sleeping for a week and then sleep for a straight two or three days then your last REM period should be about 6 hours.

But like matte mentioned, would you even be able to remember your dreams if your THAT sleep deprived?

**Jay12341235** · 03-27-2011 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

Okay let me start with this.

REM starts out as really short times. I think the first one is 10-15 minutes. Then as the night progresses they get longer and more vivid. So by the end of the night there about an hour long.

So in theory if you stop sleeping for a week and then sleep for a straight two or three days then your last REM period should be about 6 hours.

But like matte mentioned, would you even be able to remember your dreams if your THAT sleep deprived?

I'm pretty sure the effects do not stack that way.

From what I understand, generally when you skip sleep, you lose it. For example, let's say you normally sleep 7 hours a night but you decide to skip a nights sleep, and even the next nights sleep for some reason. You wouldn't sleep 21 hours the third night though when you went back to bed (3 x 7 hours of sleep). You'd most likely sleep 14 hours give or take.

That being said, I'm sure your REM sleep would increase, but I'm quite positive it doesn't carry over from the nights you've missed.

**MischiefManaged** · 03-27-2011 08:36 PM

I recently read about the man who decided to do this: he was sleeping only every other day for the same reasons - to have REM rebound and increase the possibility of having lucid dream. After a month or so of that schedule one day his relatives had to call the ambulance. He screwed up his sleeping cycles completely and after that needed half a year to recover and start seeing (I mean remembering) normal dreams again. Needless to say he did not have any lucids in that period.

Also, before the experiment he had lucid dreams, not so often as he wanted, but he definitely had them once in a while. So, no, I really don't think you should do anything like this.
There are plenty of other ways and no reasons to risk your health. It is, indeed, the most valuable thing you have.

**Raphael** · 03-27-2011 09:02 PM

As others have said, I don't think this is a good idea. You will be so tired by the time you decide to sleep, it will be extremely difficult to remain focused enough to have a DILD (which is the technique I'm assuming you want to use). Plus, you'll only have a few chances to become lucid, and if you don't then the whole 5 day process was a waste.

If you still decide to go with it I recommend PMing KingYoshi, he has a lot of experience with sleep deprivation.

**dakotahnok** · 03-28-2011 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Jay12341235

I'm pretty sure the effects do not stack that way.

From what I understand, generally when you skip sleep, you lose it. For example, let's say you normally sleep 7 hours a night but you decide to skip a nights sleep, and even the next nights sleep for some reason. You wouldn't sleep 21 hours the third night though when you went back to bed (3 x 7 hours of sleep). You'd most likely sleep 14 hours give or take.

That being said, I'm sure your REM sleep would increase, but I'm quite positive it doesn't carry over from the nights you've missed.

I never said that it would carry over.

And I said in theory. But there is no science behind what I said, since you would have to take sleep deprivation and REM rebound into consideration.