Thread: Dangers of lucid dreaming? (A response to the Arizona shooting)

exactly, thanks to this, a future conversation about lucid dreaming might go as follows

me: hey have you ever heard of lucid dreaming?
person: isnt that the thing that crazy guy jared loughner did that caused him to shoot all those people?!?!
me:

Originally Posted by JamesLD

exactly, thanks to this, a future conversation about lucid dreaming might go as follows

me: hey have you ever heard of lucid dreaming?
person: isnt that the thing that crazy guy jared loughner did that caused him to shoot all those people?!?!

This is already happening. I was discussing lucid dreaming on a friend's wall when a third person chimed in out of nowhere with this:

"Jared Loughner practiced lucid dreaming to the extent that psychiatrists and close friends feared it exacerbated his mental illness much more so than "political rhetoric" and demonstrated a lot of psychiatric and scientific evidence indicating lucid dreams can, in latent, otherwise passive, delusional sociopaths, with no propensity for violence, induce strong violent impulses that are almost impossible to control, and that these can be amplified by even mild drug use to %65 percent of people who have experiment with drugs and lucid dreaming. I'm as liberal as they come, and even think drugs should be legal, but lucid dreaming mixed with drugs, more than any political discourse, is shaping up to be what set this nutcase off. I think we have a lot more to learn about lucid dreaming before people start self medicating with it."

I'm not even sure where he's getting some of these statistics but they sound like b.s. Needless to say I gave him a nice verbal backhand. I also find it ridiculous that writers and speculators are combining lucid dreaming with the spectre of drugs to make one big scary problem that doesn't even exist. None of the psychedelic crap Loughner was using even remotely helps sleeping or dreaming.

Which psychedelics was he using?

Originally Posted by Nikola

Which psychedelics was he using?

According to the articles: cannabis, LSD, psilocybin mushrooms, salvia divinorum. All with capability to agitate a schizophrenic or unstable psyche.

Originally Posted by Flixster

According to the articles: cannabis, LSD, psilocybin mushrooms, salvia divinorum. All with capability to agitate a schizophrenic or unstable psyche.

Whoa, stroooong stuff, especially the Salvia, not the stuff you want to overdo.
It makes sense now.

Originally Posted by Flixster

This is already happening. I was discussing lucid dreaming on a friend's wall when a third person chimed in out of nowhere with this:

"Jared Loughner practiced lucid dreaming to the extent that psychiatrists and close friends feared it exacerbated his mental illness much more so than "political rhetoric" and demonstrated a lot of psychiatric and scientific evidence indicating lucid dreams can, in latent, otherwise passive, delusional sociopaths, with no propensity for violence, induce strong violent impulses that are almost impossible to control, and that these can be amplified by even mild drug use to %65 percent of people who have experiment with drugs and lucid dreaming. I'm as liberal as they come, and even think drugs should be legal, but lucid dreaming mixed with drugs, more than any political discourse, is shaping up to be what set this nutcase off. I think we have a lot more to learn about lucid dreaming before people start self medicating with it."

I'm not even sure where he's getting some of these statistics but they sound like b.s. Needless to say I gave him a nice verbal backhand. I also find it ridiculous that writers and speculators are combining lucid dreaming with the spectre of drugs to make one big scary problem that doesn't even exist. None of the psychedelic crap Loughner was using even remotely helps sleeping or dreaming.

holy shit. what a fucking idiot. i cannot believe some people. the media tells them one thing and all of the sudden they are an expert on the matter. this is the first real attack on lucid dreaming, i know nothing will ever really come of it cause its impossible to outlaw lucid dreaming, but just the fact that its spreading misinformation and giving lucid dreaming a bad name really pisses me off.