Most amazing experience ever while attempting WILD

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11-21-2010, 11:09 PM
Meeshu

Most amazing experience ever while attempting WILD

So at 3:30 (hour and a half ago) I started preparing for a day-time WILD.

First I went in my room and turned off all the lights and closed the shades, completely dark. I sat there for what I felt was a ridiculously long time (probably a half hour or less).

After that, I laid down and didn't move at all, started count and visualizing "1, I'm dreaming. 2, I'm dreaming etc..."

I did that for about 20 minute until I decided to start over in a better position (Was having swallowing/breathing problems. Tips appreciated)

In the new position I rolled over, my mouth was open (allowing drainage) and I was breathing through my nose.

This position was working for me. I counted to about 150 until I lost count. Then I just started to think about dreams. (Thinking that would allow me to enter them like a VILD)

Well after a while of that I went back to just conceptualizing counting (couldn't count anymore) and everything started going numb. I couldn't feel my body at all and my heart rate skyrocketed.

I figured I was in SP because I also saw some lights

This is when random ALMOST dreams started to happen, but they never caught hold.

I did that for a while, then decided to just let my mind fall asleep without moving, hoping that would work.

A bit after that my body swallowed randomly for me, but nothing went down. Kinda like the opposite of a gag...Idk. Soon after that my eyes forced open.

I got up, and it was 5.

Overall I think it was pretty successful for a second try, but no cigar :?
11-21-2010, 11:18 PM
Ketsuyume

The first few times you experience something new, you probably won't get much further because our minds tend to over analyze the experience and/or get excited. Both things can kill the focus required to get into a WILD.

BUT that means you ARE making progress... when those things happen next time, try to go with the flow rather than think about what's happening. ;)
11-21-2010, 11:23 PM
Snowboy

Very good! You were the closet you could possibly be! You should hit a dream the next time you WILD.

I think you would be glad to know that it's OK to swallow. It's not well-known, but you can swallow.

Good luck!
11-21-2010, 11:26 PM
Meeshu

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Originally Posted by Snowboy

I think you would be glad to know that it's OK to swallow. It's not well-known, but you can swallow.

But won't swallowing let you're body know your mind isn't asleep? (if it's an intentional swallow I mean)

I could see where it would be like breathing, it's a semi-controllable feature of the body, so your body has no way of telling if its you consciously swallowing or just you being asleep and your body swallowing for you.

And one more thing, when I'm sitting there in a half dream, how do I get it to the point where I am the center of the dream, where it doesn't take so much work to try and stay in it
11-21-2010, 11:43 PM
Snowboy

Just sit back and wait. If you do want to move in it you have to move with your mind, similar to a 3rd person game. If it's really bad, you have to see it in your head, also. Those are never fun to hold up, so just wait for it to come into focus and stabilize.
11-21-2010, 11:45 PM
Meeshu

Alright thanks, because thats my main problem. The transition from SP into LD'ing.
Thats exactly what I was doing btw, imagining a dream and being in it and then just letting them go and waiting again
11-21-2010, 11:51 PM
Snowboy

OK, I will borrow something from the Wiki for you. Something called "the void", infinite blackness, may come up on you when the dream is forming, or the dream may just be plain forming, so this might help.

Quote:

Linear Acceleration

This is another technique that is useful for getting you out of the "void"; which is the vast emptiness that you might find yourself floating around in after a lucid dream ends but you have not yet woken up. Simply begin accelerating yourself forward through the blackness. Your goal is to accelerate at such speeds that you will tear through the blackness and find yourself in a new dreamscape.
11-21-2010, 11:54 PM
Meeshu

Wait so what this means is that if I am in SP and a dream has not yet formed, I so to speak "accelerate" through the darkness as fast as I can until I land in a dream?
11-22-2010, 12:12 AM
Snowboy

Yeah, but it's theoretical (my suggested application to it), so there's a chance it may not work.
11-22-2010, 12:22 AM
Meeshu

Alright, I'll try it the next time I find myself not getting a dream
11-22-2010, 01:53 AM
Ketsuyume

If you have to swallow, swallow and don't put it off. By not swallowing you spend WAY more time thinking about it, and then you eventually have to do it anyway. It's 10 times more disastrous to a lucid dream transition worrying about it. The body swallows all the time naturally while sleeping, just swallow and get it over with. Try not to think about it too much.
11-22-2010, 01:55 AM
Snowboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketsuyume

If you have to swallow, swallow and don't put it off. By not swallowing you spend WAY more time thinking about it, and then you eventually have to do it anyway. It's 10 times more disastrous to a lucid dream transition worrying about it. The body swallows all the time naturally while sleeping, just swallow and get it over with. Try not to think about it too much.

Welcome to two and a half hours ago. I already answered that question. (lol, just saying, not trying to be mean :))
11-22-2010, 01:57 AM
Ketsuyume

LMAO I failed to read the whole thread. :P
11-22-2010, 02:00 AM
Snowboy

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Originally Posted by Ketsuyume

LMAO I failed to read the whole thread. :P

I don't blame you. It's mostly us discussing some other things.
11-22-2010, 02:24 AM
Jay12341235

What was amazing?
11-22-2010, 02:30 AM
Meeshu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay12341235

What was amazing?

The whole thing was just amazing to me.:D
11-22-2010, 02:51 AM
silver2k

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Originally Posted by Jay12341235

What was amazing?

My thought exactly lol.
11-22-2010, 02:54 AM
Meeshu

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Originally Posted by silver2k

My thought exactly lol.

The whole thing is new to me it just felt amazing being able to go into SP on purpose.

When I was a kid I used to wake up in the morning, I could move at all and it was pretty f'ing scary. I eventually forced myself to move. Now that I know what it is, it's pretty awesome to me that I can just do that.
11-22-2010, 03:23 AM
silver2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meeshu

The whole thing is new to me it just felt amazing being able to go into SP on purpose.

When I was a kid I used to wake up in the morning, I could move at all and it was pretty f'ing scary. I eventually forced myself to move. Now that I know what it is, it's pretty awesome to me that I can just do that.

Wait till you have your first LD! You have to come up with a word that is better than "most amazing" :)
11-22-2010, 03:37 AM
dakotahnok

Swallowing is okay as long as you dont pay much attention to it. And dont stress over seeing things and going numb. Just act like everything is normal. But think everything is normal. If that makes sense.
11-22-2010, 03:38 AM
dakotahnok

You can even move if you feel the need to. Just dont think about it.
11-22-2010, 05:26 AM
WaterDreamer

Meeshu, congrats on getting close! Some weeks ago I had a similar experience: I got into the SP (like yours, my heart was pounding), saw colors, then couldn't feel my body. I even experienced the big black void Snowboy talked about -- I had never been in it before, but it was distinct and unmistakable. That's when I snapped out of it, because I was so excited to be in that void! And I agree -- even though I didn't quite achieve my goal, it was amazing to be so close.

I'm glad the swallowing issue has been addressed here, since that has been my main problem in my WILD attempts as well. Now I will start trying again. Also, thanks to Snowboy for the tips on getting out of the void, I will remember that now that I'll be renewing my attempts.
11-22-2010, 11:02 AM
Foul

I've never had a problem with swallowing. I just get myself into a position where saliva will naturally drain down my throat and I'm good to go.
11-22-2010, 12:39 PM
DeletePlease

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meeshu

Severything started going numb. I couldn't feel my body at all and my heart rate skyrocketed.

I figured I was in SP because I also saw some lights

This is when random ALMOST dreams started to happen, but they never caught hold.

That always happens to me, I can never pass into a dream. I just lay there seeing lights and then they eventually fade away just as it seems like I'm about to fall asleep. >_< Anyways, congratz on making it this far; hope you have a WILD soon.
11-22-2010, 08:23 PM
Meeshu

Thanks all:D
11-25-2010, 08:02 AM
elucid

This is the whole reason I love WILDs, if you fail and get close, you will have an amazing experience like yours. I have experienced the tosses and turns and those are just ecstatic, you just feel like your body is traveling at light speed being tossed around. Wait till you experience that.
11-25-2010, 04:44 PM
menelvagor

Yeah I had a similar experience also afew weeks ago, and I was really excited too-probably because it's a much more direct path and more direct focus of your attention and effort than other methods of LDing. Instant gratification FTW. Keep trying for it, I've yet to WILD but I have been trying several times a week and feel myself gradually overcoming boundaries and blockages as I progess. Keep up the efforts, I think it will be a worthwhile skill todevelop!