Thread: Is it possible?

Consciousness can override behavioral impulses resulting from fear

Which at the core for every man...



is fear of death.


" For in that sleep of death what dreams may come...."

Dreams in my expereince don't offer much freedom from real life after doing it for 4 years non-stop. But it has built up a sense of what reality is as compared to dreams and the thought to action relationship that would affect both in dreams and reality. I used to think that I could have a second life in dreams after learning about lucid dreaming but as the years passed it proved it cannot be used that way because there's a gap too big a gap between waking and dreaming unless it's possible to stay in cryogenic stasis and dream the entire lifetime then yes another life. So you ask what's the goal of lucid dreaming...in my opinion the goal of doing it is to fulfill something that would otherwise be diffcult or impossible to do in real life and have the satisfaction of having 'done' it, it's more of a symbolic achievement than actual achievenment like say winning the Olympics and everyone knows you won it...an inner achievement that noone knows except myself. So my suggestion is that if you want to use lucid dreaming as a way to be free it may be inappropriate and would cause more unhappiness than before you took it up. Dreams are dreams they fade and disappear when one awakes and all you have is the memory of it and that's up to you how you want to use the memory of what you dreamed and incorporate it into real life and make real life more meaningfull.

IMJ

Originally Posted by Trickster

Which at the core for every man...
is fear of death.

The weak fear death. The strong conquer it.

Originally Posted by Panthershark1

I wonder what the goal of all this is.
to interpret your conscious thoughts, to have a fun filled sleep, to understand yourself, Control your mind? what is it.
what are your goals?

Is it to live another life in the lucid world where there is seemingly more control. I dont know. But i want to be free.

Yes, it's very well possible. It just takes a lot of discipline and hard work (for most people).

Originally Posted by Panthershark1

Control your mind?

Lol, you do that every day, mate.

And yes, all of the above is possible.

Every environmental acquisition system of a living organism has the same general definition. So the answer, although may be stated in almost infinite particulars, there is only one absolute answer.

"to have life and to have it more abundantly."

Originally Posted by Philosopher8659

Every environmental acquisition system of a living organism has the same general definition. So the answer, although may be stated in almost infinite particulars, there is only one absolute answer.

"to have life and to have it more abundantly."

This.

BAM.

To understand my self, to overcome my fear of death, and to discover just how connected we all are on other frequencies of consciousness.

I often feel as if I am training for something...But what? Luckily Dream Views exists to hash out all of these issues! Discussing these topics in the waking world is a gamble indeed...
If anything, dreaming/lucid dreaming seems to work out issues in the subconscious that directly effects us when we are awake. Even if such occurs on a minute level such as waking up in a sweat or becoming sexually aroused, dreams seem to effect the physical world...

Liber Absurdum: XI

Originally Posted by Trickster

Which at the core for every man...
is fear of death.

Pfft, not everyone fears death, so don't let that be something that limits you in dreams!

My goal of course, is to live another life and to make this one better. The means are a completely different thing <.<

To discover and explore the true potential of the mind.

Originally Posted by Supernova

To discover and explore the true potential of the mind.

So, then, do you believe that there is a "true" and a "false" potential of the human mind?

Personally, my overall goals are 1) to understand myself and my mind better, 2) to have as much fun as possible doing it, and 3) to visit places that don't exist and do otherwise impossible things.

Originally Posted by Philosopher8659

So, then, do you believe that there is a "true" and a "false" potential of the human mind?

Perhaps he meant HIS true potential.

Originally Posted by Philosopher8659

So, then, do you believe that there is a "true" and a "false" potential of the human mind?

Ok then, to be more accurate strike the word "true" from the sentence altogether.

Originally Posted by Ketsuyume

Perhaps he meant HIS true potential.

Actually, I was thinking for a moment weather or not to write "of my mind", but I felt what I wrote came closer to my intended meaning.

Im thinkin yea, potential is high, when we look to things like meditation and conscious dreaming, we see with focus you can control your mind. But i dont know how much power or control you can find from lucid dream,. i kinda think that if u can have frequent lucid dreams and are able to have some sort of control of ur sub conscious than it might carry over to have more control over ur conscious life. with manifestation and mind over matter.
what do u think?

i disagree that the weak fear death. I feel that the ill informed fear death because, people who are vivid dreamers, people who do LSD and other psycotropic drugs, and people who have had other worldly or spiritual experiences would understand that death isn't something to fear, but i do not think this seemingly innate fear is weak.

The goal of lucid dreaming, for me, is to exercise the abilities and ideas I'll never be able to flex in real life. I want to do things, even if they seem mundane, that I know I'll never be able to do in real life. My goal with lucid dreaming is to just live more completely.