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      Could this affect a teenagers ability to have lucid dreams?

      http://www.lcsc.edu/ps205/inside.htm

      In a nutshell, this article explains the 'disconnecting' of the teenage brain. This 'disconnection' usually begins somewhere around age 12 and ends at age 19.

      Until the past decade, neuroscientists believed that the brain was fully developed by the time a child reached puberty and that the 100 billion neurons, or nerves, inside an adult's skull–the hardware of the brain–were already in place by the time pimples began to sprout. The supposition was that a teenager could think like an adult if only he or she would cram in the necessary software–a little algebra here, some Civil War history there, capped by proficiency in balancing a checkbook. But the neural circuitry, or hardware, it turns out, isn't completely installed in most people until their early S.
      Could this affect a teenagers ability to recall and have lucid dreams, since technically their brains are not 100% effective compared to the brain of an adult?

      I know this seems a little far fetched, but this could be a reason why adults seem to be having more lucid dreams than teenagers.

      EDIT: I realise this is in the wrong forum. But this is relevant to non-lucid dreams as well as lucid dreams, depending on how you look at it, so I decided to put it in this one
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      No this Idea is false, for me I had a lot easier time Lucid dreaming
      as a teenager. I have to work a lot harder at it now. Back then my
      dream recall was also alway's perfect. I could remember everything
      crisp and clear, with out even trying. I never even used to write my
      dream's down, not even the Lucid one's. I regret that now!
      though I still remember most of them anyway. at least all the really
      powerful one's. Now, if I stop thinking about my dream's I will lose my recall
      pretty fast. Im not sure why this is. but thankfuly right now my recall is great.
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      I'd say it's easier for children/teenagers to have them as well. This is the time in your life before you're accreted all the responsibilities that make having time for LDing so rare for adults, and when you're a kid you often don't know enough to know that having and mastering LDs is supposed to be a diffucult task - and so, since you don't know as much, it's a lot easier for you.
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      Same - I used to LD all the time when I was younger 14/15 now I'm 25 and it's getting less and less

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      I always heard that LDing was harder as an adult. Being a teenager myself, I can't vouge for this, but it makes sense. Adults have to go through all the stress of work, permanent relationships, etc.

      And your brain being disconnected might make it easier, actually. It might be easier to disconnect your conscious from your subconscious.
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      The brain isn't less good as a matured brain, just less developed meaning lessons and new ideas and practices are much easier to learn at that age. They have an advantage, because their brains can still easily integrate stuff.

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      Actually, the whole point of the article is that teenagers' brains aren't as developed as scientists used to think.

      Anyway, the way I read the article, it seemed to me that the ways in which the teenage brain is underdeveloped had to do mostly with emotional/social behavior (which would explain the way teens typically act). I don't see a connection with the ability to recall dreams, which simply depends on (short-term) memory.

      I'm also wondering where this notion that adults have more lucid dreams came from.

      *Warning: the conclusion to my post might be confusing to the more serious reader due to randomness*
      Finally, I'd like to add that guns don't kill people, unless they're loaded, then they might. Also, be careful when someone tries to hit you on the head with one, that could just do the job.
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      Cool Yeah right

      I'm 15 and I just had 5 LD's today. I could argue that since teens are exposed to more education than adults we have more LD'S because our brains are being constantly exposed more education.

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      "Mornings? Your bluebird of happiness is flown, replaced by a groaning lump that can scarcely be roused for school."

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      Actually it should be easier to have lucids since it's easier for you to get sleep when you're younger.

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      Well first of all, in my opinion I try to see things from all points of view and I have come to my own conclusion that teenagers are under more stress due to the stress of puberty, college preparation, social lives, grades, parental expectations, state testings like finals and such, our jobs, and this is right after we were kids on top of all that. The definition of stress is simply a changing of pressure, whether it be a good stressor or a bad one. As pre-pubescent children our expectations were insignificant little stepping stones in comparison to the big picture. The difference between the childs lifestyle and the teenagers lifestyle is tremendously different. However, as teenagers, we are fully aware of our next step in life; becoming an adult. We are taught at this stage everything we are to eventually deal with as we leave our teeneg lifestyles to become adults. Therefore, although it is a change, it is an expected one and has a less profound effect on us when we are eventually exposed to it. The transition is therefore less noticeable. In conclusion, I would like to mention that I am not saying or making the implication that adults don't have stress, they just have things in the day that concern them and take their minds away from relaxation. If anyone is having the problem of dreams occurring less and less often, you could take Vitamin B6, a known agent that aids in electrical functions in the brain, such as the intensity found in REM sleep, or deep sleep. I also recomend that if you have a vacation, you could not sleep as much one night and then go for a full nights sleep the next. I am not educated in the subject of sleep as well as some of the other members but I understand from other forums, whether they are valid or not, that you will "double-up" on your REM sleep because of your tiredness.

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      That sounds entirely plausable, and is one of the new techniques being discussed on the forums.

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      Well, I know one thing that has hampered my ability to get the proper amount of sleep during the past year.
      A year ago, I could go to sleep within 20-30min of getting to bed, no matter what time. I have to get up at 6am to go to school. So last year, I would go to bed 9-10pm and go to sleep straight away and feel great the next day. But over the past year I found no matter how tired I have trouble getting to sleep till 11-12 and sometimes later. This results in me having trouble functioning for a few hours the next day :'(
      I did a bit of research and found out that it's something to do with teenage brain/hormones that causes teenagers to want to sleep in and causes them to have trouble sleeping.
      So in that aspect, I do believe that if you aren't getting enough sleep (which is a common problem, which is hard to rectify as a teen) it severely impacts your ability to remember dreams and lucid dream.

      Saying this, I am a teenager myself and may find in 10 years it much harder to lucid than now!
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      im still a teen, and i have good dreacal and i have some lucids

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      Well like I said, you should take B6 if you have trouble. It might help. But keep in mind their are certain drugs that are sleep-aids, but it fuzzies up your thoughts and can interfere with your dream recall. In fact I used to smoke weed everyday before I went to sleep to sedate me, but I noticed it also affected my recall, so I quit a week or 2 ago. However, I hear many people have different reactions to weed, so I can't imply anything, but if you are a smoker, stop for a while and study the effects. If you are a common user, it may affect your sleep for a night or two. Dream loss is a common withdrawal sympton with addicts or common users. Nonetheless, Stick with vitamin B6, big dinners an hour or two before you go to bed, and don't eat or drink anything with a taste to it before you sleep. Brush your teeth thirty minutes to an hour or later before you sleep and drink water to flush the taste out, trust me it can be distracting, especially if you try to WILD. Lastly, you can take it or leave it; martial arts is a great help in dream recall. It is very important that I mention that I underlined "great" for a reason. If you take a martial art that exercises discipline, respect, honor, and you take information from it that helps your mind and body, it will fix literally any problem in your thoughts because the focusing skills you pick up are invaluable in everything you do, lucid dreaming or anything else in your life. Dream recall become much easier. Again, I can't imply that everyone will feel the same exact way, but it worked for me and I feel it is good advice to give. Give it a try. I recommend you do a traditional japanese style because it incorporates chi-gung methods and....well lucid dreaming, astral projection, etc. In fact thats how I found out about lucid dreaming to begin with. Much of the energy and meditation exercises I train with are in some way involved in dream recall. The focus you have in the dream will actually carry over to when you wake up, and your dream journal will fill faster.
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      Learning lucid dreaming before the brain is fully formed may actually be easiser and more beneficial in the long run, because the brain has the most plasticity while young. It's more open and accepting to new ideas. Open to change. Not crystallized. By programming key points such as dream recall and reality checks into the brain at this crucial period, I'm sure it'll make it easier to LD in older years than if you started in older years.
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      agreed

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