Thread: Am I an Owl

Apologies for thread if in wrong sub forum.

First off this is true. My friends and family call me weird and say im gonna turn senile because of it
I don't know what to make of it.

To the point, I woke up today at 11am. I KNOW I WON'T SLEEP TONIGHT. maybe the same for the next night. I never, at least for years, with the odd exception; sleep for two nights in a row. This is taking ages to write this lol I keep mistyping. I've had a few alcoholic beverages and smoked a few Js.

I'm not some anti-social moniter zombie. I go college/out, have healthy relationships with family and friends/gf. I just...don't need sleep like they do. I just go about my business while my family sleep ect. Then the next day, I tell them. Yesterday feels like earlier.

Time gets distorted really bad. The day after the first night seems to either go REALLY LONG or reeeeeeaalllyy quick. The second night of me being awake I DO sort of see shapes and stuff. Yesterday I wa in stationary a car with friends, and was seeing people walking past. Creeped my mates out when telling them. It's always in corner of my eye.

The day after the night i don't sleep. I feel really Tiried from about 6 am to maybe 11am, then I'm fine. The sleep that comes is soooo damn blissful. I fall asleep in what feels like a damn minute. Just bang, it's like my eyes were screaming THANK F@#K! For THAT! and i really do go feel like instant sleep mode. Back to the day after i have done 1 night no sleep I can sometimes feel really tired but like infinite stamina simultainiusly I can do no sleep. Jog with dog. Lay Brick walls for. 4 hours. MIND FRUSTRATING long word maths work. I'm not a genius, nor is my ego massive, but this year I escaped a place full of dimwitted simple narrow minded scavengers. Rambling....

My query is: what exactly is GOING ON?

I just decide on first night from waking from sleep night before. And decide meh, my body doesn't feel like it needs sleep. Don't really feel tired. So I just... Stay awake. Tiried ness doesn't hit me that hard at all first night.


I don't know what I want at the minute lol.
Love you all

Your suffering from acute insomnia. those shapes your seeing are a result of lack of sleep. When you deprive your brain of sleep long enough it will begin to hallucinate. This is extremely unhealthy, try to go to sleep, lay in bed for hours if you have to. If you genuinely cant I suggest seeking professional medicinal help.

Even if your body doesn't need sleep, your mind always needs sleep.

How is this impacting my dreaming progress? Lucid dreaming is my only motivation to put my head down and TRY to go to sleep, I have tried for hours, with so sound, no lights, black silence. I've tried with tv on, off, music on, off, I just don't seem to be MENTALLY Tired, my eyes don't feel like they need to be shut, so I just carry on until exhaustion overcomes me.

The sleep that comes though, feels like a fast forward button. I wake up and last night feels like 5 minutes ago. The only times it isn't like that is when I have a rare dream.

Originally Posted by needinglucidity

How is this impacting my dreaming progress? Lucid dreaming is my only motivation to put my head down and TRY to go to sleep, I have tried for hours, with so sound, no lights, black silence. I've tried with tv on, off, music on, off, I just don't seem to be MENTALLY Tired, my eyes don't feel like they need to be shut, so I just carry on until exhaustion overcomes me.

The sleep that comes though, feels like a fast forward button. I wake up and last night feels like 5 minutes ago. The only times it isn't like that is when I have a rare dream.

If you want to excel in LD'ing then you need to have a consistent sleep schedule that you can analyze. This way you can interpret when your REM cycles are starting, ending, and are at their deepest. You cannot employ the WBTB method with your acute insomnia which also increases your chances of gaining lucidity by 10-fold. That is how this is impacting your dream progress.

I am not an expert in the matter of your condition all I can guarantee you is it is not normal or healthy regardless of what you seem to feel.

My advice is to seek professional advice or do enough research to resolve the matter on your own. You will never be able to LD properly like this.

Originally Posted by BossMan

If you want to excel in LD'ing then you need to have a consistent sleep schedule that you can analyze. This way you can interpret when your REM cycles are starting, ending, and are at their deepest. You cannot employ the WBTB method with your acute insomnia which also increases your chances of gaining lucidity by 10-fold. That is how this is impacting your dream progress.

I am not an expert in the matter of your condition all I can guarantee you is it is not normal or healthy regardless of what you seem to feel.

My advice is to seek professional advice or do enough research to resolve the matter on your own. You will never be able to LD properly like this.

I really don't like how hard your last sentence hit. This cycle is gonna be SO HARD to break. Seriously

If you sleep irregularly, your REM and sleep cycles will be messed up, and that will affect your (lucid) dreaming negatively. Also, BossMan is correct. When you go extended hours without sleep, your natural dreaming cycle will begin to manifest itself while you are awake, so you start hallucinating. Perhaps you can take some medication to help you sleep? Or maybe you can do some relaxation techniques to help you fall asleep.

And lol, the title totally threw me off.

Moved to General Dream Discussion

I used to have the problem of only sleeping about 2-3 hours a night, some nights not at all, one night I would sleep all the way through. Like you, I didn't feel tired. Then I got into LDing and I really wanted to LD. If you really want to sleep at the right times (8 hours a night from about 10 to about 6, give or take a few hours) you need to be in bed at only those times. If you are tired and it is not those times, then you deal with it. If you are not tired and it is those times, you lay in bed regardless. Soon your body should be getting tired at the right times because it has no choice. I found out that I could think faster, read faster, comprehend faster when I got sleep, and I wasn't anywhere near stupid before. It is just healthy to sleep this much. If this doesn't work seek professional help.

It sort of started around 5-6 years ago. I just gradually stayed up later and later until seeing he dawn was normal for me before I went to sleep. Now it's progressed to being awake for usually like 36 hours at LEAST. that is my honest opinion. I don't know what to make of it though. The doctor ordered me to just buy sleep aids tablets. Sod that. I don't take unnecessary meds cos hardly anyone knows what they put in their and their child's mouths. That spreads though daily consumable items too.

Anyway, yeah I just sort of conditioned my body I think to handle more hours through the course of my school years.
Doing all nighters then going to school was a normal thing

Your chemicals in your body are unbalanced if you keep doing that. It can lead to lots of diseases. You should tell your doctor you don't want medicine and ask him what will happen if you continue.

I forgot to mention, when I was getting 21 hours of sleep a week, I thought that I was 100% I didn't notice that I couldn't think as straight. As I said before, I was very smart before, so I didn't realize that I was dumbing myself down.

A study showed that if you ask someone well rested a question about math or history or other subjects, one small part of their brain will become active. But if you asked someone that is not well rested the same question or the same type of question more parts of their brain will activate, making them take longer to answer. They have the same info, but they can't access it as easily.

I get bored of attempting to fall asleep before I actually do though, when I try to go to sleep that is.
I don't know, I used to see it as I was having now hours awake, thus living more life than others, now I'm not so sure

Still concious over here!

Try reading, that usually bores most people to sleep nowadays, worst case scenario it doesn't work and you learn something

I do actually read a lot and enjoy reading. I got about 30 books in my room and a few are always scattered around house. The mother moans rightfully. My mates think its weird that I read lol if they're in my room and I bust out a book lol. I loved informative books and equally love non fiction. My vocabulary compared to friends is much more extended because of this. My English skills too. And I don't claim to have ocd, but if I read a book and its gripping, I will NOT put it down until I finish it. I do that with brand new computer games too. Idk. Sleep comes second it seems.