Intensely vivid non-lucids?

This is a topic that interests me a lot, I've had a friend mention this happening to them before, though I don't know if it's still happening. I think it may have just been a short phase. But anyway, I was wondering if anyone here has non-lucids that are as realistic or even moreso than the waking world, like stable WILDs or other highly-vivid lucids. And if you do, have you just always been that way, or did you work to achieve it? How would you get to that point, just work to the level of having insane recall? I'd absolutely love to have my non-lucids be that vivid. :)

Well my dreams tend to be very vivid whenever I get sick, though that probably won't help you much. There are some things like vitamins and herbs I hear that are supposed to make your dreams more vivid. I don't know, I have often been able to have vivid dreams, lucid dreams, etc. but not all the time and I've never been successful at making a dream more vivid within the dream, it's always been my physical state of being, and I assume the chemistry within my brain that affects the intensity. I have very intense dreams sometimes but.. I do not always sleep well, so by the time I do get to dream I could be very sleep deprived.

I suppose it's difficult to offer advice since the things that have induced vivid dreams for me were not at all good.

Mine use to be like that all time, I think it mainly had to do with the fact that I was so interested in LDing at the time that I spent a lot of time researching and practising. Apple juice always seemed to help as well. Just keep practicing different technique and remember to think outside the box. If you manage to find a remote in your dreams, look for a "vividness" button and turn it up. It may sound ridiculous but it'll work as long as you believe it will. Vocal commands are effective as well; a simple "increase clarity/vividness" will go a long way as long as you're sure of yourself.

Most of my non-lucids are very vivid. If i go to bed whenever I feel tired, my dream recall is absolutely great, but this is hardly ever what happens :P

Any thing i can recall is always vivid as far as non lucid's go.
I rarely wake up with only bits and pieces of a dream. Its usually all or nothing for me.
My dream length and detail are always ridiculous and i find it hard to separate the 2 in most dreams with the exception of architecture. If something is wrong with a building i have seen irl i can spot it.

All my dreams are perfectly vivid. If I recall a dream immediately upon awakening I feel as if I was really there. It's only when the memory starts to fade that the dream starts to seem like it was blurry. Unfortunately that memory fade can begin seconds after awakening.

Someone suggested that certain substances can be used to increase vividness. Apart from apple juice, are there any other?

My dreams are vivid when I am asleep, I even have the capability to do dream recall of an actual previous dream while I am still asleep. I can't say they are extremely vivid because there are some things that don't work well for me in dreams, like senses, thorough details and reading. I've got a problem recalling words or dialogues I have heard too, in fact I wonder how much do I actually speak in my dreams!

I have been capable of thought processes in my non-lucid, something I consider an element of vividness. My vividness has improved from blurry to fragments to detailed dreams with recollection of the environment too. The improvement is most definitely due to journalling.

But I realised I have a problem in my dreams, I never seem to notice or remember the face much. It's like I instinctively know who that person is. I can remember other parts of the body just the face seemed still a little blurry.

Ever since last year, I started having extremely vivid dreams (non-lucid). There have been (many) times where in the morning I'm thinking about the previous day or last night's dreams and suddenly realize that something I had thought happened yesterday was just a dream from last night.

Such things for me are usually fragments of dreams, like I will remember the majority of the dream, but one particular conversation or part of one I would have thought was said in my waking life. I usually come to terms with it and figure it out in a few seconds but they are really vivid.

In terms of achieving such vivid dreams, it started about a year after first hearing about Lucid Dreaming. I had just started eating bananas everyday (I didn't know at the time that it helps with dream vividness). However, since then I regularly remember at least 2 dreams a night (its been almost 8 months). And I haven't had a banana in over a month.

GO bananas

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Originally Posted by Carrot

But I realised I have a problem in my dreams, I never seem to notice or remember the face much. It's like I instinctively know who that person is. I can remember other parts of the body just the face seemed still a little blurry.

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Correction. After saying that I realised I noticed faces in my non-lucid last night, not all but I noticed the boy I was, I was drifting in and out of first person and third person perspective if you get me.

I guess I don't notice other people's faces because that was relevant to what I do in real life. I don't like staring right at someone's face in real life, makes me feels awkward, maybe that's why faces are fuzzy in my dreams or I just don't spend too much time staring at them in my non-lucid.

My non-lucids tend to vary, ranging from hazy and hard to remember to extremely vivid. It's usually hard to remember, and it takes some effort to piece it together of course, but there are random nights where I'll have an extremely vivid dream and remember every little detail upon waking. :) I'm sure that as my recall gets better, I'll probably get more vivid non-lucids like those.

Yes. I had a really vivid dream this morning after doing WBTB where I took a 10mg B6 tablet, then doing a relaxation exercise. The dream scene was that vivid with no distortions or strange inertia type pulling sensations I usually get.
I thought I was actually there (in my house) in a real-time, real life scenario. My RC hand palm check failed as I could feel my finger bend off my palm like it would in real life.
I never convinced myself it was a dream. The first thought I had was that I had been sleepwalking! :eek:

I find also that Apple Juice gives 'vivid' dreams, whereas the small amount of the B vitamin (in my case) gives me more unusual/vivid dreams. (I will probably try to use a natural form of this vitamin in future, like from certain foods, rather than in tablet form as you have got to respect it.)
I also went to bed a bit later last night.

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Someone suggested that certain substances can be used to increase vividness. Apart from apple juice, are there any other?

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The herb Mugwort is well known for improving dream recall. Every time I have ever taken it it has massively improved my recall, but I feel like it also can have an effect on the kind of dreams you have. It's hard to explain the differences but one specific thing I've noticed is it's easier to play with space, moving and jumping, falling etc, it's not as rigid. I've had a few stints of drinking it in tea every night, usually two hours before I go to bed, lasting from a week to 3 weeks. A couple of times it has improved dream recall instantly, and other times I've had to wait a few days. The second time I tried it, after a few days I went to bed and in the morning remembered dreams at at least 6 different stages throughout the night, including the really early on dreams in the first stages of sleep that are almost total nonsense and have never stayed in my memory before. Friends around me at the time also trying it said it had a big effect on their dreams and recall.

Mugwort is native to Europe and Asia but I think it also grows in the US as an invasive species, mainly in the East. However if you can't find any around where you live, there are a lot of Herbalists that have websites where you can order some of the plant dried. Feel free to research more!

In the Pyrenees last summer I also heard of a mix of herbs that they called Lucid Dreaming tea, which consists of Mugwort, Black Hawhound and Mint. I've not yet tried this mix and am quite skeptical that a mix of tea could bring on lucid dreaming, but who knows! If I try it I will post the results.