The Female Orgasm

Talking about women and sex --> instant testoteroney arguments among pasty white internet shut-ins everywhere.

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Originally Posted by Siиdяed

Talking about women and sex --> instant testoteroney arguments among pasty white internet shut-ins everywhere.

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lmao

I'm sigging this

But truer words never have been spoken.

Scientists may not know what causes (edit: as in why it exists) the female orgasm, but here know is the keyword. You're hardly the first to launch a hypothesis.

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Originally Posted by khh

Scientists may not know what causes (edit: as in why it exists) the female orgasm, but here know is the keyword. You're hardly the first to launch a hypothesis.

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Who? Me? I'm hardly the first to launch the hypothesis? Well, that's the whole god damn point. I surely fucking hope for my god damn scrotum that I am not the first one to say this. If I am, then fucking hell, science is broken.

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Originally Posted by CanceledCzech

Who? Me? I'm hardly the first to launch the hypothesis? Well, that's the whole god damn point. I surely fucking hope for my god damn scrotum that I am not the first one to say this. If I am, then fucking hell, science is broken.

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Well I've read about some hypothesis in a magazine from the 60s or something, so don't worry. You're not the first.

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Originally Posted by djinternet

A female orgasm = she squirts water out of where she urinates out of.

Check out the words of Dr. O. of [Link deleted by Admin]
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A woman cannot fake an orgasm for
the same reason a man can't fake his!

A human man now has the visual tool (just like women) to know
if the woman he's humping has cum or not. It is her squirting
that tells a man if he has "done his job" or not. Just like a man
ejaculating tells a woman if he has cum.

The human male's orgasm is when he shoots sperm out of
his cock and the human female's orgasm is when she
squirts water out of her pissing hole.

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Wow, this guy cannot be serious.

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Originally Posted by khh

Well I've read about some hypothesis in a magazine from the 60s or something, so don't worry. You're not the first.

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Ok, thank god. My faith in science has been momentarily restored -- momentarily

*shakes fist*

so what I don't understand is why the template of a human is female - that doesn't make sense. is just because we all have nipples to begin with? we all start with a clitoris/penis, which technically is for males...

so my hypothesis is - a female orgasm is the bi-product of the male orgasm.

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Originally Posted by khh

Scientists may not know what causes (edit: as in why it exists) the female orgasm, but here know is the keyword. You're hardly the first to launch a hypothesis.

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unfortunately, as we aren't scientists, hypothesising is all we can do... and its what we do best.

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Originally Posted by DeeryTheDeer

I still think CC's original explanation is the most logical. It's like scientists wondering why eating food is a pleasurable experience- because it ensures the perpetuation of the species by giving you fuel to survive. Endorphins are released in the brain whenever you do something that's basic for survival or procreation, so that you want to do more of it.

How is that pseudo-sciencey?

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Our built-in instinct to reproduce is way beyond the level of orgasms. Even if we didn't have orgasms, we would still want to make babies. However, it does make some sense, what you can CC are saying.

Keep in mind that everything that happens in natural selection is not due to isolated factors. Everything factors into every change in the genome, and thus it is entirely possible that what you and CC are saying and what I'm saying both played a part in humans actually having the ability to experience an orgasm.

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Originally Posted by Soro

hurp durp

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I see your point. As far as I know, the clitoris and the glans are, at the early stages of life, the same. Eventually, once the gender is decided, they develop into different organs. However, this doesn't have to suggest that it sprung out from female development. Maybe the glans/clitoris are so early developed, because they are very complex organs. This would mean though, that neither came first. They both came into existence at the same time.

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Originally Posted by CanceledCzech

A while ago, I read a few articles about how scientists could not explain why women experience orgasms during coitus.

What a bunch of fuckin' idiots.

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Where did you read this..?

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I decided to make this thread a few minutes ago, as I was reminded of this. I sincerely hope that that those articles were wrong, like most news is, and that most scientists actually do have the capacity to overcome such a simple question. Anyway, just in case it is true, I have decided to let you all know my theory of how the female orgasm came to be:

(This is also assuming that humans, or a distant humanoid ancestor evolved without the females of the species experiencing orgasms, just for simplicity's sake. Though if you switch the species in question with something even more distant, like fish or something, the overall idea remains pretty much the same)

1. Female is born with gene that causes release of certain hormones and contractions of certain muscles during mating that are intensely pleasurable.

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All kinds of androgens are present in all kinds of sexes. In other words, estrogen is in males, testosterone is in males, and all other hormones are found in both sexes. There is no exclusive hormone.

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2. Because of this, the female is more willing to mate and seeks out more partners, thus having more children, and wanting to go about the whole process, as opposed to her counterparts who may or not be less reluctant do to the lack of arousal/whatever.

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Wait.. are you saying that some females are naturally born to be sluts because they orgasm better..?

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3. Female gives birth to many children who have this 'female-orgasm' gene, and because of the nature of the gene, she out breeds her competitors and the gene conquers the human gene pool.

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There's no such thing as a "female-orgasm gene".

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Seriously, was that so fuckin' hard? God dammit science, you disappoint me sometimes.

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Here is some enlightenment from science for you;

:arrow: What the Female Orgasm is For

"...orgasm is an adaptation for manipulating the outcome of sperm competition resulting from facultative polyandry."
+ http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...92f19012dbb815

"Orgasms that climaxed at any time between 1 min before the male ejaculated up to 45 min after led to a high level of sperm retention. lack of climax or a climax more than 1 min before the male ejaculated led to a low level of sperm retention.
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It is argued that orgasms generate a blow-suck mechanism that takes the contents of the upper vagina into the cervix. These contents include sperm and seminal fluid if present.."
+ http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/blogs/g...maleOrgasm.pdf

Just in case it is mentioned;
"These data suggest the pubococcygeus muscle plays an important part in the pathophysiology of female orgasm."
+ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/468760

There you are. I hope the real science helps quell your disappointment.

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Ah, very nice O'nus. I've never looked into the matter, so I just took his word for it and suggested my little theory. What you say there sounds even more likely.

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Originally Posted by Soros

Marvo contended that the reason females have the orgasm is because males do. I argue that while we, as in males, receive female characteristics like nipples and breast tissue (see my post), females cannot receive male characteristics in the same manner because male parts are developed later while female parts are like the template for a human therefore it is logical that we inheret some of their characteristics while it is not logical that it would go the other way around.

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That isn't true at all. You are assuming that we all grow as females, then we add extra male parts afterwards. Which is silly. The truth is we start as the same the diverge into our seperate gender. Which is why we all share the same parts.

The nerve endings in a male turns into the penis, and in a woman they form into the clitoris. If you ever seen a picture of the full clitoris(which is mostly inside the body), you would see it looks exactly like a penis. So woman have a penis, if you rub it they have an orgasm. Is that really so complex?

Why do men have an orgasm? So that when they find a proper mate and begin sexual intercourse, they will ejaculate.

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Originally Posted by Alric

That isn't true at all. You are assuming that we all grow as females, then we add extra male parts afterwards. Which is silly. The truth is we start as the same the diverge into our seperate gender. Which is why we all share the same parts.

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"In mammals, males have XY chromosomes and females XX. The new research shows that another gene is responsible for switching women into men.
If the FOXL2 is switched on then the body grows ovaries, switched off and they are replaced by testicles."
+ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/s...ists-find.html

Just thought I'd add that.

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Originally Posted by CanceledCzech

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2. Because of this, the female is more willing to mate and seeks out more partners, thus having more children, and wanting to go about the whole process, as opposed to her counterparts who may or not be less reluctant do to the lack of arousal/whatever.

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huh? Woman are for the most part monogamous... they want to find a strong mate with good genes to reproduce. not multiple men. I think you are thinking of the animal kingdom...

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Originally Posted by hellohihello

The G-spot doesn't exist

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no.. you just haven't found it.

btw, women can squirt, but it doesn't neccessaily mean that's when they orgasm. some women just.. how do i put it... they just have a umm.. "flow" "stream" of "wetness" come out... lmao that was hard to word. anyways, so if a woman does not squirt, it does not mean she didn't orgasm. I would know. I am a woman. and I know that women are very different. even when it comes to clitoris sizes.. lips.. such things. so yeah.

and woman climax because if we didn't, we would be having sex with men. we would only have sex enough to get pregnant and then we'd stop. i think that's pretty simple.

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Originally Posted by Rozzy

huh? Woman are for the most part monogamous... they want to find a strong mate with good genes to reproduce. not multiple men. I think you are thinking of the animal kingdom...

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Animals (including humans) are monogamous, but for the most part polygamous. This is simply fact from how much time it is taken to court juxtaposed to divorce and marriage rates.

Not denigrating women or monogamy, just that monogamy is a lucky incident that we aim for. In the meantime, we are more than likely being polygamous. I mean this as in a, less than three month relationship is likely under scrutiny and easily dropped for a new attractive mate.

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no.. you just haven't found it.

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True.. there are multiple "spots" for a female. More than a male.

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and woman climax because if we didn't, we would be having sex with men. we would only have sex enough to get pregnant and then we'd stop. i think that's pretty simple.

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What..?

Are you saying that women only have sex with men to get pregnant?

Are you also implying that women only have pleasurable sex with females..?

Trolling..?

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Well that's what super smart people in lab coats said.. but they probably don't have lady friends.

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Originally Posted by hellohihello

Well that's what super smart people in lab coats said.. but they probably don't have lady friends.

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I have a beautiful lady friend!

:P

..see what I did there?

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Hey mr super smart person in a lab coat with a lady friend. I think phillip defranco told me that

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Originally Posted by hellohihello

Well that's what super smart people in lab coats said.. but they probably don't have lady friends.

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Listen to the what super super smart people in lab coats says..

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80...-g-spot-study/

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Originally Posted by O'nus

Animals (including humans) are monogamous, but for the most part polygamous. This is simply fact from how much time it is taken to court juxtaposed to divorce and marriage rates.

Not denigrating women or monogamy, just that monogamy is a lucky incident that we aim for. In the meantime, we are more than likely being polygamous. I mean this as in a, less than three month relationship is likely under scrutiny and easily dropped for a new attractive mate.



True.. there are multiple "spots" for a female. More than a male.



What..?

Are you saying that women only have sex with men to get pregnant?

Are you also implying that women only have pleasurable sex with females..?

Trolling..?

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lmao what i meant was if women didn't find sex with men pleasureable, or sex in general pleasureable we'd only have it to populate the earth but it would be a inconvenience, and when women and men have sex, a special hormone is created to make them more attached, the more you sleep around the easier it is to do it, the less you sleep around the easier it is to get hurt.

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Originally Posted by Rozzy

lmao what i meant was if women didn't find sex with men pleasureable, or sex in general pleasureable we'd only have it to populate the earth but it would be a inconvenience, and when women and men have sex, a special hormone is created to make them more attached, the more you sleep around the easier it is to do it, the less you sleep around the easier it is to get hurt.

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Ohh ok. I do believe you're talking about oxytocin.

Good to mention it.

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^ lol yeah. :D

Ummm... women can't fake an orgasm?
Apparently, you've never slept with me :embarrassed:
I find sex pleasurable and the action of intercourse causes it's own lubricant if you have a partner whose not a barbarian.

I haven't had an orgasm, through intercourse, for years. Blame it on medication. It sucks, but oh well. My hubby has no idea because I prefer him not knowing. He's a superb lover, but failing damages the male ego after so many times.

As for why we do (or are supposed to), I could care less lol. Scientists never fail to come up with one theory or another and I can't keep up with them all :D

It is a shame when woman fake an orgasm. They think they are doing it for their husband or boyfriend, but really they are just cheating them. Most guys are pretty understandable, and would be more than happy to take the extra steps needed to help their partner have an orgasm.

^ agreed. :panic: < i just liked the new panic smiley thingy so decideed to incorparate it in somehow...