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      NO ADRENALINE METABOLITES DETECTED
      Today I was stunned to find my catecholamine test was negative. Last month I tested over a 24 hour period and variously increased HR and BP all day to ensure metabolites would be present. My metabolites were all within normal values. I am flabbergasted, to say the least. I simply cannot think of any other mechanism that can universally target heart rate, peripheral vasoconstriction leading to increased blood pressure, pupil dilation, and occasionally altered sweat pattern. After the doc reviewed the labs I sat there dumbly. Even he rose to shake my hand I was slow to process this. I must have been the first patient sad my labs were normal! I asked he refer me upstairs to Neuro.

      When I in-processed neuro this AM they took my BP and I gave them a normal value or 136/88. I then told the girl to do it again and the alarm actually rang on the electronic VS machine; 204/105 (I think this is a personal best, at least in many years). My intent was to set the framework to now talk with neuro. I was lucky to meet a very nice, smart, English speaking doc. I gave him the background and told him I wanted to manage my testing options IAW money available. I don't have tons of money to throw away. I told him I wish to do an EEG with me being softly notified every 5 minutes "5 minutes." Therefore, we would have time marker to evaluate later. I asked if he wanted to "see" with my pulse. Eagerly he said yes and proceeded to get a regular rhythm radial pulse. I then said "up" for a little bit, "down." Up and down, etc., in order for him to see how incredibly easy it is to control it. I love the look on their faces.

      In essence, the doctor concluded the EEG was unremarkable. A few points: after my 3rd 5 minute HR B/P dump I thought I was finally stroking out. The lights flashing almost looked like electrified vessels with a shocking light in the center. A moment later I realized they activated a strobe over my head. My difficulty then was not to laugh. What a dumbass! My intention during the EEG 30 min session was as deep meditation as I could muster as I wanted to contrast as much as possible. I was in a very blissful place. This is important. The background of the egg started at roughly 8-10hz (alpha), but settled into 5-7Hz (theta); the doc noted on the report I was likely getting drowsy/ I was not. But this is not important. He did note, however, various spikes to approx 20Hz. 20Hz is not remarkable at all, but it may be instructive in this context. (Later, the doc did not charge me for the visit because he said he never saw such a thing and it was great for him. Nice!).

      When the doc later discussed with the EEG I asked to see on the PC. Every 18 pages scrolled represented 5 min. I needed to know because I would review myself later, and I wanted to estimate how much time he spent in the room following the EEG. He did not spend that much time. I think he perused and concluded healthy male, normal EEG. I also think he forgot my intention to do this every 5 min so I had him scroll to the 5 min mark. "There," I exclaimed, what is that? There began a massive amount of erratic movement. He stated that these were muscle artifacts. Ah, I don't think so. I did not move once. So the point is, does it appear as artificat? Can I discern the cortical area from the right, left, center lead? Is it too deep for a standard EEG to read (EEG not really read midbrain, pons, etc), and the cortical positive erratica is actually just diffuse reflection?

      I will polish up on my EEG review (It has been 20 years or more) and if there is anything curious or positive I will post. I also wish to note that every 5 min I did a slightly different action. I sought to leave a fingerprint of valleys and mtn tops when I later looked at the results. If these are present than I will conclude it is positive but still wont know how to interpret the data further.

      I am disappointed that this was not endocrine as now I have no theory, and numerous people posting may be thinking the wrong thing too. I always considered a possible neuro hormonal idea but a neuro phenomena that targets both the Sinoatrial node and peripheral vascular resistance at the same time? Ahh, i cant process that. That is, sympathetic and while activated my neuro it is mediated by the very hormones I did not have out of normal value.

      My next stop is perhaps fMRI. I will conduct some homework and then return to either Neuro or cardiology. I do not have any cardiac problem yet they seem to have the imaging tools in this area. For those of you who have this same ability, I don't know guys/ladies.
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      Hi... I dont know what to say. I am speachless. I can do this as well, I can rise my blood presure and heartbeat also dilate pupils, I feel squshy sensation in my head and I can do this since I remember. Im from Poland in Europe and I didnt know anyone else could do this. The descriptions are realy familar ... to such a degree I feel like I know you.

      But it seems to be two different feelings. One is adrenaline-like and the other is similar to excitement with piloerection and relaxation. I can combine those two. This second feeling I learned when I was something about 15 years old (now im 24).

      Don't you think guys we should make facebook page to talk about this and to make others (who have this ability) know that we are here? I can make facebook group if you want to.

      Sorry for my english - I'm not used to this language but I hope you understood all.

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      I too am speechless, feeling a bit scared, but glad to find some people (still alive) who describe exactly what just happened to me.

      I used to get this exact 'thing' at certain occasions all my life (I'm turning 30 in two weeks) but never thought more of it, just thought it was due to a short random brain/heart/hormone bump or glitch. It felt good in a tingling way, but also like I was falling back into a black hole or so. I experienced it also a few times just before plunging into sleep, but it shocked me back into awake, and I considered this annoying, because I was just trying to fall a sleep. Yes, it felt like falling! Real deep space falling! Nothing frightening, just falling.

      Well, just today I was working after a very short night 4 hours sleep and early start. I work as an airline pilot, so staying awake is crucial and part of the challenge. So I was looking out of the window and felt I was slipping into a 'micro' sleep, but voluntarily jolted back into awaking. Strangely though, this time I kind of got a hold of the 'squeezing thing' mentioned before! I repeated it a couple of times and felt so instantly awake! My whole body was warm, my fingers where tinkling and my hands where a bit sweaty. Wow! I looked to my captain on the left, he was struggling to stay awake, and I was instantly fitter and alerter than ever before! Also I felt an alleviated awareness of my surroundings, a calm and clear line of thought and I felt miles ahead of everything.
      I could still 'squeeze' this 'thing' all during the approach but I was scared I was going to get a seizure or such, so I quit doing it. On the ground I immediately googled 'voluntary adrenaline rush' and landed here. Read everything I could find on this stuff, also checked and confirmed that my pupils dilated. I'm still trying to confirm my heart rate change. It's so strange, I also feel like I know you guys... Maybe because it's such a personal experience. Well, I always thought the involuntary occurrences where common and that everybody has these. But pumping multiple times down my spine and getting tunnel vision or increased focus, together with this warm glow all over my body, just at will? I had to google... I'm so very thankful of the medical work some of you have done, because I was really freaked out that my heart or brain would explode... But you guys are doing it for years already and some of you seem to have passed the half century, so apparently it's not as toxic as chronic hard drugs use?

      Just to confirm, I can also remember all my dreams every night, and have often experienced OBE or LD but have never really gotten into it. I am mostly able to get goosebumps, or shivers down my spine at will (like when hearing good music) even without thinking of anything in particular, just concentrating and looking at my arm hairs making them go up. I can also cry at any time with real tears, without thinking of anything sad, just twisting my mouth and feeling an intense heat welling up inside making my tear glands secrete (even when just typing this post). I'm pretty athletic, could always learn new physical things faster than everybody else. I started eating vegan since a year and am a bit obsessed with treating my body well. Contrary to that, I've also always been intrigued with mind altering drugs, and as being Dutch, had access to everything under the sun. But those were other times, now I'm of course a professional man. I can confirm a previous post that 'it' feels like the onset of MDMA, though contrary to drugs, that come and go much longer and slower, this comes instantly and it goes within a second, so fast I can only describe it using the word 'electricity'.

      Well I'm so hyped to find more people, and to find that it is actually real, and rare!
      I also notice that after a few 'bumps' or 'rushes' it gets harder to make it work again, fleeting in intensity.
      I did the little iphone camera heart meter, and got a resting of 40, a few seconds later got around 88, then back to around 50, but my hands start shaking a bit so it's hard to conduct. Maybe I can train to get bigger results? My bumps last for about 5-10 secs, then I can't 'squeeze' any more. But after a few secs rest I can do it all over again.

      I would like to know if I'm doing any damage here, else it would be a welcome technique to use during my flights. I just hope my company doesn't google my name and find this weird stuff, thinking I'm doing experimental stuff in the front there, risking peoples lives? That's also why I need to know if it's safe, else I'll quit doing it forever...
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      Very interesting.. I am quite intrigued in this phenomenon from a personal standpoint. I'd like to point out Vasopressin as a hormone which I personally think of as an attractive candidate in playing a crucial role in vasoconstriction. It does not directly affect the heart the way Adrenaline does but it is mainly concerned with excess saline/water levels in the blood. Thus, I think it may cause sweating. It is a vasoconstrictor as well. Afaik, metabolites of Vasopressin may be hard to find in a simple urine/blood test. But I really don't know. Should you hear it's name, take note. It is part of the Endocrine family and I have gathered one account where someone was injected with Vasopressin as a child for medical reasons and he still remembers everything that happened to him on that day as a child. Oxytocin is the neurochemical counter-part for Vasopressin which is more related to Cortisol's effect in slowing heart-rate and (I believe) higher doses of oxytocin make it hard to remember stuff. While Vasopresin is more Adrenergic in it's effect. Cortisol and Adrenaline are (to my mind) mirror hormones to each other as well.

      ^May be a bit hard to read but those are my honest thoughts. I was just wondering. What are any of the useful applications you can do with this skill? Are there any negatives to be noted?
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      Ok this is so wierd. I can share with you things I found out by doing this.
      Quote Originally Posted by Hugonl30 View Post
      I am mostly able to get goosebumps, or shivers down my spine at will (like when hearing good music)
      If you can use this without adrenaline-feeling attached to it you can make yourself some kind of high It feels after while like I'm pumping more blood to my brain and thats why I feel clarity and kinda high. It seems I'm able to use this longer when i listen music or while I'm relaxing with eyes closed. I use this electric often so now its realy intense and goosebumps are all over my body. Now I can maintain this for how long I want and still intesify this feeling. I treat this as an expanded consciousness state.

      Try this music with electrical feeling Don't know what music you like but just try this and pay attention to words while hearing music
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      youtube.com/watch?v=gaOyvGHETNY
      Quote Originally Posted by Hugonl30 View Post
      I'm pretty athletic, could always learn new physical things faster than everybody else.
      Few years ago I was into acrobatics. I learned back handspring watching my friend. It was like I know how it feels to do this just by watching. That's one example.

      Quote Originally Posted by Hugonl30 View Post
      I could still 'squeeze' this 'thing' all during the approach but I was scared I was going to get a seizure or such, so I quit doing it.
      I know what you mean. When I was kid I was scared cause I could amplify this adrenaline feeling without any border. I mean there was no limits and it felt like something strange will happen if I make this stronger and stronger. As a kid I thought I will teleport if I make this strong enough but I was too scared

      Quote Originally Posted by Hugonl30 View Post
      That's also why I need to know if it's safe, else I'll quit doing it forever...
      I don't know but after checking with pulsometr I could make my heartbeat rise from 90 up to 160 so i don't think you can safely do this for extended period of time. Also adrenaline feeling feels like I have to squeeze and force myself to make it happen. Electrical feeling is less invasive.

      huh, ok. Again sorry for my english
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      Oneironauta, the music you linked was significantly enhancing for me as well. It is subtle and i don't quite get shivers but i did feel pressure on my head which was pleasant. Not sure why i don't always notice it when listening to music. Lower tones can kind of upset my stomach. The higher tones usually get to the brain, I guess. The music was nice and spiritual as well, I liked it.
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      I would love to join the experiment!
      I can do this, and I always thought it was just me. I describe it as this: I think about it and concentrate. Then this rush of energy rushes all around me. Usually it just ends at my elbows and knees but sometimes if I concentrate, I can bring it to my fingers and toes.
      Once when I did it, I had a cut on my hand. After closing ,my eyes and doing it for a minute, I noticed my cut was smaller.

      This is so interesting and I can not wait to find an explaination.

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      shire0511 Please be specific ... Do not say you can do this if you describe something else. We don't think about it and don't concentrate. It's working same way as moving arm. Did you check heartbeat and any other physiological parameters? It's not about energy rush it's more about influencing your physiology.

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      Just another quick observation, after a few successive 'it's' my nose got a bit runny, and my hunger feeling disappeared...
      I'll keep observing.
      Anybody else got some physiological signs of something out of the normal?

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      idk where the concentrate part came from.
      My heartbeat increased a little. But then, it always is much higher than normal...

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      Quote Originally Posted by StephL View Post
      I can't do it - sounds like a great ability to have - if you refrain from over-using it - after all, it's an emergency system and the extra or hysterical strength you can get like this, is meant for an all in exertion - no matter the damage to the system.
      No doubt, it can be used sensibly, though - and I envy you for it a bit.
      Really interesting thread - but my are there some weird posts in it..




      This one really galls me - you basically come on here, and dismiss lucid dreaming as some stupid irrelevant phenomenon at best, and at worst as people just making shit up.
      That's an incredibly ignorant and impolite thing to do, when joining an LDing forum.
      You know nothing about lucid dreaming? Fine - but refrain from such condescension, please.
      Did I dismiss lucid dreaming or random experiences in dreams? Also it should be "a" not "an" since L is not a vowel. : ) I was stating its not some random wishy washing experience, its real, I don't believe I said lucid dreaming is a stupid irrelevant phenomenon at since I have done lucid dreaming before, and I even posted in a thread talking about my experiences with it, at least I think it was on this forum. Lucid dreaming has been proven to be true, there's nothing wishy washy about it. I think you're making assumptions here lol, I have nothing against lucid dreaming : )

      Anyways for any of you guys that claim you have this ability, or just want to discuss about it I am asking you to PLEASE join our facebook group, called Adrenalwill. We only have 2 members at the moment and the more the merrier! This way we can keep in contact about this thing closely.

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      hey Raggy facebook says there is no such group as Adrenalwill. I did copy-paste so I am sure I didnt misspelled.

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      I can do this too since i started lucid dreaming! Maybe i could have done it earlier but that awareness and connection sparked by lucid dreaming caused my new ability
      THIS . IS . DREAMVIEWS

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      Ok. I will see if I can find it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by arjunadawn View Post
      NO ADRENALINE METABOLITES DETECTED
      Today I was stunned to find my catecholamine test was negative. Last month I tested over a 24 hour period and variously increased HR and BP all day to ensure metabolites would be present. My metabolites were all within normal values. I am flabbergasted, to say the least. I simply cannot think of any other mechanism that can universally target heart rate, peripheral vasoconstriction leading to increased blood pressure, pupil dilation, and occasionally altered sweat pattern. After the doc reviewed the labs I sat there dumbly. Even he rose to shake my hand I was slow to process this. I must have been the first patient sad my labs were normal! I asked he refer me upstairs to Neuro.
      Are you saying you are trying to measure the metabolites of epinephrine (adrenaline) in the blood? If not, afaik they don't test for that to get an idea of elevated epinephrine levels, they check your blood for changes in cortisol and adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH) levels. These are released into the blood stream in response to an "adrenaline rush" as your body's way of regulating itself and maintain homeostasis.

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      Hi everyone, here are updated results of the survey:

      https://drive.google.com/folderview?...Gs&usp=sharing

      So far there have been 53 responses.

      Here is a link to the survey if you would like to take it:

      http://kwiksurveys.com/s.asp?sid=lxkp91z7kx6ezyi342919

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      Let me explain my experience (excusem me if i make any gamatical mistakes i'm not an native english speaker) so generaly i can do this whenever i want, I usualy do it when i am sleepy and i need to stay awake and sometimes just for the feeling it gives . It starts frmo my spine and it goes troughout my hole body it's a tingling feeling and if i concentrate i can make it focus on 1 part of the body , my pupils dialate i sweat after using it a lot my heart rate elevate also after a little time my muscles contract like i have been lifting something heavy . If i use it 1-2 times a day for some time the feeling gets smaller but if i don't use it for like 2 days and let it go all at once it gets 10 times more intense also when i use it constantly after a while it feels more like waves spreading from my spine then going back and so on but when i don't use it for a while and then use it all at once it feels more like a tsunami . It makes that sleepy sensation go and if i am hungry and use it it makes the hunger feeling go for a while ........... Btw it has been like 3-4 years since i discovered this and i have benn experimenting with it for like 2 years .
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      Quote Originally Posted by snoop View Post
      Are you saying you are trying to measure the metabolites of epinephrine (adrenaline) in the blood? If not, afaik they don't test for that to get an idea of elevated epinephrine levels, they check your blood for changes in cortisol and adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH) levels. These are released into the blood stream in response to an "adrenaline rush" as your body's way of regulating itself and maintain homeostasis.
      You are incorrect, and correct. The test I did would have found the product of my dumping epi. I will need to revisit all that happened 6 months ago, with this lab test, and the eeg as I have been traveling for some time.

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      Quote Originally Posted by cc171745 View Post
      Hi everyone, here are updated results of the survey:

      https://drive.google.com/folderview?...Gs&usp=sharing

      So far there have been 53 responses.

      Here is a link to the survey if you would like to take it:

      http://kwiksurveys.com/s.asp?sid=lxkp91z7kx6ezyi342919
      Hello,
      its been a long time. Thank you for this survey. I just looked at it. It is amazing. One immediate point that I had never given any thought to is the off comment someone made regarding the perineum constricting, not the anus. After reading I realized this is very correct. I think it fascinating that in Taoist and Indian Yoga, the microcosmic orbit, the anus (HuiYin in chinese) is to be pulled in as the energy is worked up the rear channel. Just curious.

      Thanks again. I look forward to catching up on other posts.

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      Hi! I might be a little late to the party but... I'd like to tell my story. Before I tell my story i'll tell you all, what the effects and feelings I get when I do this thing. First I've come to realised it has 3 stages, the first stage gives me a huge jolt in energy and i can quickly go from dead tired to completely awake, along with that my pupils dilate and my movement speed increases. The second stage is very interesting because it increases the first stage and also adds a sort of healing aspect in that I reduce the pain that I am feeling, my vision is also slightly increased as well as my hearing, noticing even the slightest of sounds. Finally in the second stage, I involuntarily have twitching in my head, arms and legs feeling a surge of warm electric energy. The 3 stage Is one that I have a hard time controlling as it makes my body jerk and heat up quite a bit but not only does it enhance all previous things but I've noticed that my hay fever which consists of stuffy nose and watery eyes, completely goes away! During all 3 stages my strength and speed dramatically increase, I know this because I work in a warehouse and I frequently test myself while doing this ability and i'm able to push myself further because I feel powerful, lifting 1" plywood over my head and walking up ladders as if it were child's play.

      I first realised I was able to give myself a jolt in energy when I was around 15 years old, from that point on I never really understood what it was and I did it very liberally when ever I felt myself falling short of energy. Only 1 year ago did I start making connections between this ability and worldly things that happen all the time and thats when I thought to myself "Maybe this is an adrenaline rush?", so I did my research and found this blog. Shortly after I started delving deeper into this ability always questioning whether or not it actually was an ability, I started to take a look into qi or mo pai. This is an art which deals with the human bodies ability to generate electrical energetic currents used for both healing and harm. Since I was able to reduce pain while releasing energy I figured this has to be the answer, but after looking further into it I relised this might be something completely different. I still dont have all the answers just yet but I'm learning to control this ability trying to hold it for longer and activating it in motion, as well as pushing it beyond what I can take.

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      I believe this a male attribute that the bezerkers used, it could explain why people believe in chi.

      I think that it is closely related to breathing in the brain because you can control your breathing consciously and subconsciously just like these adrenalin rushes and when I trigger one it seems to make me start to breath inwards

      Maybe it's a conscious increase in testosterone not adrenalin?

      Noticed I could watch 2 videos simultaneously while surging (no need for focus)

      Noticed different types of surge
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      Me too, kinda

      Quote Originally Posted by Sentaku View Post
      I wasn't sure where to post this so I descided here was good.

      I can do this...Thing... where I can send a rush of energy throughout my body at will and it feels very much like an adrenaline rush but not exactly like one. I've looked this up with only limited success on finding out what it is, but I have found out that it's not just me that can do this. So I ask...

      Do you know what I'm talking about or do I just sound crazy?

      Do you know what this is, exactly?

      I can do something similar. I can send a shiver down my spine, that makes me feel like I need and want to run or punch or do something. I make it happen by breathing out a certain way along with pushing a muscle, or moving a body part or something strange like that. I'm not sure exactly how I do it, but I do. Flexing muscles also helps it occurs, usually my fingers and hands.

      The shiver doesn't always work due to the temperature of the environment. When the shiver doesn't wirk then usually I just flex the muscles harder. It sounds strange but focus, become calm, (almost like meditating), and try it. It gives you power.
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      Hey I'm a little late to the thread, but I got interested in what I thought were forced adrenaline rushes that I could use and then I found this thread while doing research and it caught my eye. I can do the whole forced "adrenaline" rush and get the shiver up my spine, but the one thing I noticed nobody has mentioned that I could do was forcing a rush of "adrenaline" to one spot in particular like just my arm, also I have a hard time shutting it down if anyone has tips on shutting it down please tell me, it takes about 15minutes to shut it off!

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      I am not sure what to reply to this!? But if this 'feeling' is an adrenaline rush, BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!! Adrenaline rushes are normally non-activateble (at will) because they can kill or seriously injure you! Do not try working out, getting in a fight or such things! Reason beacause if you punched someone at 100% of the body's power it would not only kill them but seriusly injure you by means like breaking your shoulder arm wrist ect.

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      Haha i'm so late to this but even though this thread is old, I've gotta leave my experience, since it's been so hard to find other people who can do this. Just as all of you have described, it's something of an adrenaline rush feeling that causes me to tremble and my eyes to dilate and my heart rate to increase. I dunno how or when i was able to do this. It's a fun trick to use to freak people out, but since it seems to be so rare I thought i'd leave my legacy here.

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