Thread: How free are we?

Originally Posted by Xei

I've always thought Americans have had a kind of obsession with freedom to the point where it's become more of a mantra than anything meaningful.

I don't think most people in the USA realise that the American dream isn't exclusively an American phenomenon; in the sense that there are many places in the world where there is probably a lot more social mobility, and freedom to achieve what you want by the strength of your will and imagination.

Like I said above, the 'freedom' that Americans will often defend their country for is more of a concept than anything else. What is it exactly that you want the freedom to do, and do these things tend to be allowed in America but not in the rest of Western civilisation? Probably not.

Definitely true. I like how you stated that. Americans are a bit obsessed with America (...a bit?), and will never know the difference until they leave the states for themselves.

Did you know Bush never got his passport until he was president?

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

Conservative Christian republicans talking about freedom makes me want to strangle puppies for that very reason, Xei.

Definitely agreed, probably one of the most annoying things in the world.