Thread: Re-writing Communism

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

There cannot be communism without oppression. It has never happened, and there is no way that it could happen. A voting public will always reject communism. Do you think it is a coincidence that 100% of the communist governments that have existed have been ruthless totalitarian regimes? How else could it happen?

We've been over this before. Last time I pointed out how every "communist" regime came about after a period of extreme national instability such as civil war, not exactly a good foundation for government. In fact you could say that all these regimes were inspired by and emulated Stalin's Soviet Union, which is a horrible template for communism. Communism can only be achieved gradually through socialism, and tons of people vote for socialism all the time. I've convinced others that communism is a good thing, it's not like nobody would ever want it, most people are just very misinformed. The stigma around communism (especially in the US) is so huge that it's hard to pierce through all the propaganda and show people the real deal.

Originally Posted by spockman

That is interesting. Because of that fact, pure capitalism would be a way to prove how effective communism is for those that prescribe to communism. If communism was effective, assuming governments themselves were private entities, a commmunist government could beat out the competition using free market principles and convince others to become communist by virtue of their system being more stable then other systems. I don't think communism would expand like that, but the idea of capitalism being the best way to initiate communism even if communism was a smart system is ammusing, to say the least.

You can't have free market principles within communism. Capitalism is based on competition and communism is based on pooling resources.

Originally Posted by Spartiate

We've been over this before. Last time I pointed out how every "communist" regime came about after a period of extreme national instability such as civil war, not exactly a good foundation for government. In fact you could say that all these regimes were inspired by and emulated Stalin's Soviet Union, which is a horrible template for communism. Communism can only be achieved gradually through socialism, and tons of people vote for socialism all the time. I've convinced others that communism is a good thing, it's not like nobody would ever want it, most people are just very misinformed. The stigma around communism (especially in the US) is so huge that it's hard to pierce through all the propaganda and show people the real deal.



You can't have free market principles within communism. Capitalism is based on competition and communism is based on pooling resources.

And free market principles are based on free exchange of money. If a group of people voluntarily pool resources it is not anti capitalist.