Thread: F**k the Troops

Originally Posted by SpecialInterests

Well considering American corporations dominate our economy, they have taken us over in a sense. They support our political campaigns, fund our media, control the products we are sold...

That is not taking over. That is having strong influence. Your business people are still free to do what they want to do with their lives, and your consumers are free to shop where they want to shop. They have freedom of religion and lots of other freedoms, and they do not fall under our laws. Taking over is what Nazi Germany did to Poland and what the Soviet Union did to Eastern Europe. They stepped in and said, "This land is my land. Do as we say from now on, or else."

Originally Posted by SpecialInterests

Well this is really an A+ attitude. This is the reason rainforests will continue to be clear-cut, ecosystems destroyed, cheap labour in third worlds exploited, the air and water polluted, the oceans over-fished, and the land raped for its ores and oils. All because we can, and I quote, "afford" to live like this.

You misunderstood me. I wasn't saying we should be able to do whatever we feel like as long as we can do it. I was pointing out the economic effectiveness of capitalism. Understand?

There should be limits on taking endangered resources, but I don't trust left wing propaganda too much.

Originally Posted by SpecialInterests

Our well-being and the reason we can live like this in the West is based on the exploitation of poor people around the world. Don't believe me? Look at all your clothes, shoes, appliances, etc. Look at the tags; any money it says "Made in Indonesia", or something a long those lines. Millions of people slaving away for a dollar a day so that people like you, sitting comfortably at your computer, can preach about how our system "works", and others don't. The Oil you burn in your car has been reaped from third worlds by fat rich white businessmen, oil that's been inherited equally by every human on this planet, then sold back to our fat-asses.

Some of our businesses have foreign workers, and some don't. This "exploitation" thing gets thrown around by socialists all the time, and it is very misleading. It is true that some businesses pay shitty wages to third world workers, but those workers are not pulled down by our businesses. They are given slightly better alternatives that are still shitty. That is a matter of a business not doing as much as a it could, not a matter of a business fucking up a country.

Originally Posted by SpecialInterests

The American empire will crash and burn like every other empire preceding it, and there is one good reason for it: It's not built to last.

I know you dream of that. Your dream speaks volumes about how you really feel about others.

Originally Posted by SpecialInterests (in another thread)

I really hope something happens in 2012, although my intuition tells me it's superstitious bullshit.

Maybe Yellowstone in Wyoming will erupt and cover 1/2 of America in burning hot pyroclastic debris. That would be kinda cool...

I don't know about anyone else, but bad news is my favourite news.

There we have it.

I would like to have a great world with healthy people who are happy, free, and safe. I can see where you stand.

Originally Posted by stonedape

Is it our military that brings us freedom, or our principles? I think we have success, we have freedom, because of our principles of freedom of speech and capitalism(freedom of trade).

Do you really believe that principles need to be defended with violence? Do they not stand on their own?

No, there are plenty of countries that have had those freedoms and lost them. It could happen here too. We need to do our best to make sure it doesn't.

Originally Posted by SKA

You are far too gullable. The load of shit they made you believe. You and masses of the world's populace.
You should have nicknamed yourself Universal MindLESSNESS instead.

Oh no, SKA. Did you really leave that pathetic post? Did your roommate get a hold of your account or something? That is pitiful. I thought you could do better than that. You know I love a good debate, but you gave me nothing except name calling. Is that really the best you can do? What a sad sight. I thought you were much smarter than that. Would you like to try again? Come on, explain to me where the missteps in my reasoning processes are. Give me counterarguments. Debate me instead of leaving mindless posts. Show me something. What you posted is worthless.