Thread: F**k the Troops

Originally Posted by stonedape

So people who use violence to enforce their ideals aren't thugs if they where a uniform? What is it that makes it ok for people in the military to use violence but not ok for others(talking about war, not the example with the wall)?

Civilians

This is a load of shit. Killing people is killing people regardless of weather or not you get paid for it. In fact, if someone is paying you to do it, it's even worse because then your doing it because someone else told you to, so it's not impulse but a calculated move. To some extant there are people who have been brainwashed(/are naive as has been said) and to some degree it's not their fault. But that's even more of a reason to verbally abuse them. These people need to realize what it is they are doing, and it seems that some can and some can't.

What is it that we need protection from? Why do we need to fight for freedom?(I don't think we do)

What justification do we have for supporting our uniformed killers? They only one I see is that they are "protecting us", which is bull. They are in another country fucking with people's shit. The only thing this war protects is imperialism. Apparently it is alive and well.

"So people who use violence to enforce their ideals aren't thugs if they where a uniform? What is it that makes it ok for people in the military to use violence but not ok for others(talking about war, not the example with the wall)?"

I never said anything remotely close to this. If a Marine beats his wife, he goes to jail just as any other person would. Obviously killing enemy combatants on a battlefield is a little different than murdering in cold blood back home. Military personnel aren't allowed to walk around America punching people in the face because of their uniform, what makes you think they are exempt from the law?

"This is a load of shit. Killing people is killing people regardless of weather or not you get paid for it. In fact, if someone is paying you to do it, it's even worse because then your doing it because someone else told you to, so it's not impulse but a calculated move. To some extant there are people who have been brainwashed(/are naive as has been said) and to some degree it's not their fault. But that's even more of a reason to verbally abuse them. These people need to realize what it is they are doing, and it seems that some can and some can't."

Get off your high horse. It boggles my mind that people can be this self-righteous. How exactly is killing on impulse better than killing by calculation? American soldiers are not mercenaries, mercenaries are mercenaries (private contractors.) So why do you people keep talking about the money? If there is one thing in life that I am absolutely sure of, it is this: NOBODY joins the Marines/Army/Navy/Coast Guard for the money. Some people may join for benefits, they may join to stay out of jail, they may join to pay for college, they may join to prevent homelessness, but they do not join because the money is good. And infantry men join infantry because they believe in what they do, they understand the necessity of their existence. The people who only want to exploit the militaries benefits usually look for the easiest job in the military, you won't find people like that in the infantry. Bring your nose out of the sky and realize that the majority of people know exactly what they are getting into when they join the military. It is insulting beyong belief that you assume they are too brainwashed/naive to realize what they are doing.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

Civilians, so-called "insurgents" that are only violent against us because we're invading their homes, putting embargo's and sanctions on their countries, etc.

They are no longer civlians when they pick up an AK-47 and aim it at an American soldier. Is that your idea of non-threatening?

Originally Posted by cygnus

uh, this made me laugh.

if he was an intellectual he probably would use this intellect to address the root of the conflict rather than 'violence to prevent future violence.'

It was a joke, he never threw anybody through a concrete wall, obviously. He's a Marine Corps drill instructor, not a psychologist.