Thread: Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize.

Originally Posted by CanceledCzech

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Originally Posted by grasshoppa
Nobel Peace Prizes have no merit anymore.

It would seem so.

Not like the old days of those unanimously agreed upon Nobel Peace Prizes that engendered no controversy whatsoever, back when all humanity agreed that peace is the only way and working for peace in no way threatened the status quo.

Let's have an update. It is May of 2014 now. How much of a peace champion has Obama turned out to be? Was he worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize because of the pro-peace actions he was going to take later? He kept the Iraq War going for almost his entire first term and continues to keep a major U.S. presence there, expanded the war in Afghanistan and keeps it going, drones the Middle East on a regular basis, keeps Gitmo open, signed the continuation of the Patriot Act, and signed the National Defense Authorization Acts that allow for the indefinite detention and killing of U.S. citizens without trial. Does that sound like an ideal Nobel Peace Prize winner?

Is Obama a Republican spy?

I wish Ninja9578 was still around to give his thoughts on this. Does anybody ever communicate with him any more?

Maybe if it's just me, but whenever people refer to "Obama" and "Nobel Peace Prize," it's usually in the context of a joke. In short, people generally think Obama having the Prize is comedy. Not sure if it was ever really taken seriously except for among some of his diehard followers.

The only thing I agree with is his involvement in trying to legitimize the the medical marijuana movement... And even that is debatable :/

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

Maybe if it's just me, but whenever people refer to "Obama" and "Nobel Peace Prize," it's usually in the context of a joke. In short, people generally think Obama having the Prize is comedy. Not sure if it was ever really taken seriously except for among some of his diehard followers.

Unfortunately, some of his die hard followers were the Nobel Prize people. I wonder if they still are.

He won the prize directly after being elected, essentially meaning the American people that elected him won it for not electing another war-mongering terrorist. Unfortunately he betrayed them and upped the violence.

Politicians should always be judged based on what they have actually done. Obama got elected the first time when he hadn't done much other than get elected to lower offices, work as a community organizer, and hang out with terrorists. People keep electing politicians based almost entirely on what they say, and it (among other things) is making politics really dysfunctional. Deceiving the public got way too easy, but I do think the tide has turned.

Unfortunately his successor will not be much different, the power structure that exists in this country is far out of control and drunk with power and money and they have no intention of bringing their reign to an end any time soon. Obama broke every promise and he is a wolf in sheep's clothing like every other back stabbing two faced politician on this planet. It is a complete disappointment what humanity has allowed to transpire right under our sleeping noses.


BTW UM and Blueline helloooo its been a long long time!

Originally Posted by guerilla

Unfortunately his successor will not be much different, the power structure that exists in this country is far out of control and drunk with power and money and they have no intention of bringing their reign to an end any time soon. Obama broke every promise and he is a wolf in sheep's clothing like every other back stabbing two faced politician on this planet. It is a complete disappointment what humanity has allowed to transpire right under their sleeping noses.


BTW UM and Blueline helloooo its been a long long time!

Ha ha ha, welcome back!!! It tripped me out when I saw that you had posted in this thread. The old school lives on!

I agree with what you said, except I think there are a few good politicians out there. Something I like about the Libertarian Party, which I officially joined since the last time you were here, is that the members of it are so set on principles that they will denounce any Libertarian politician who goes against his or her promises or the party's principles. The mess that politics has become has a great deal to do with relentless party loyalty. It allows politicians to get away with all kinds of insane actions, and they know that. They work the system accordingly.

You should get a look at the threads I have started in recent times. Some of my views have changed a good bit. I'm an anti-war conspiracy theorist now. I didn't see it coming a few years ago.

How have you been?

hehe its good to see you are still here, people change views all the time and its bound to happen upon stumbling on new ideas and information, I used to be a hardcore libertarian myself and to some extent still have some libertarian views but im more mixed these days.

I've been up and down to be honest, lots of dark times behind me lots of stupid decisions and what not, and somehow I have come full circle and returned to the world of speaking with other human beings and not the world of reclusiveness and hiding away from the world. I'm better now though how about you?

I'm sorry you've been down some, but I'm glad you're doing better. It's an insane world out there. However, it's a fascinating one. I've been all right for the most part, though I have had some unfortunate circumstances here and there. I still post here sometimes. The traffic here slowed down a lot, and I think it has a good bit to do with the fact that popular movies about lucid dreaming haven't been coming out in recent years. My compulsive internet posting transferred mainly over to YouTube. I'm trying to slow it down. I have a serious internet posting addiction that I might need to start attending meetings to get past.

Aw sorry to hear that, life unfortunately likes to throw obstacles on a daily basis, each day the obstacles become tougher, which makes or breaks us. Some of us become stronger and succeed and some of us fall apart and stumble, but you can always get back up and show life who is tougher.

I believe it is all part of our fate, if we are not tested then we will never truly know our potential and how strong we really are, we need these downs to create the ups. PM me if you ever need to chat, internet posting addiction can be pretty bad, that need for constant recognition of your thoughts, feeling the need to be heard and responded to, I have had that issue in the past.

Thanks. I appreciate that. Posting on the internet is like part video game, part university class, part debate, part self-expression, part social gathering, part comedy event, and part activism. It's all of those things at once, and that makes it addictive. It's not as bad as some addictions, but it can be a problem. Fortunately, there are some good benefits that come with it. I have learned a whole lot of stuff I wouldn't have learned by now if it weren't for this addiction. I just think I need to start reading books more instead. The activism aspect of it starts to feel futile after a while. I've said just about everything I needed to say about politics and religion. I feel like telling the world, "Those are my thoughts. Take them or leave them." In all of this time, I have probably gotten about three people to start to agree with me.

Good points, there is a pro and con to everything in life, that's what makes life so amazing, and bad at the same time.