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10-02-2009, 12:48 AM
Sornaensis

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Depression isn't caused by synapses in the brain, it's the other way around, feeling depressed causes synapses in the brain. That's why most people that are truly happy don't ever get sick. Cancer and all those deadly diseases start in the mind. People have survived after being diagnosed with these sicknesses by just accepting their fate and being happy.

Oh god, my stupidity meter just broke. Seriously, do you know anything, about anything? Cancer is a genetic disorder in cells, and depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain. Just shut the fuck up in the future, please.

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The mind is your feelings, memory and personality, which in turn affects synapses in the brain. Science cannot prove that you love someone, OR that you even have dreams for that matter. It's subjective. All science can prove is that you have brain activity.

And I had just fucking replaced my stupidity meter, too...

Dreams are a specific kind of brain activity, and so is sexual attraction. Love is an abstract concept and noöne can agree on a definition for it.
10-02-2009, 12:51 AM
Sornaensis

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Depression isn't caused by synapses in the brain, it's the other way around, feeling depressed causes synapses in the brain. That's why most people that are truly happy don't ever get sick. Cancer and all those deadly diseases start in the mind. People have survived after being diagnosed with these sicknesses by just accepting their fate and being happy.

Oh god, my stupidity meter just broke. Seriously, do you know anything, about anything? Cancer is a genetic disorder in cells, and depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain. Just shut the fuck up in the future, please.

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The mind is your feelings, memory and personality, which in turn affects synapses in the brain. Science cannot prove that you love someone, OR that you even have dreams for that matter. It's subjective. All science can prove is that you have brain activity.

And I had just fucking replaced my stupidity meter, too...

Dreams are a specific kind of brain activity, and so is sexual attraction. Love is an abstract concept and noöne can agree on a definition for it.
10-02-2009, 12:52 AM
Sornaensis

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Depression isn't caused by synapses in the brain, it's the other way around, feeling depressed causes synapses in the brain. That's why most people that are truly happy don't ever get sick. Cancer and all those deadly diseases start in the mind. People have survived after being diagnosed with these sicknesses by just accepting their fate and being happy.

Oh god, my stupidity meter just broke. Seriously, do you know anything, about anything? Cancer is a genetic disorder in cells, and depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain. Just shut the fuck up in the future, please.

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The mind is your feelings, memory and personality, which in turn affects synapses in the brain. Science cannot prove that you love someone, OR that you even have dreams for that matter. It's subjective. All science can prove is that you have brain activity.

And I had just fucking replaced my stupidity meter, too...

Dreams are a specific kind of brain activity, and so is sexual attraction. Love is an abstract concept and noöne can agree on a definition for it.
10-02-2009, 03:47 AM
CarmineEternity

Nice spam, Roxx.

HURR HURR CAN I PERRTISSIPETE IN UR GUISES DEISKUSHUN!?!??! WHATS A SACRED?! GEOMANTRY... I DONT GET IT> SOMEOME ESPLAIN ME
10-02-2009, 03:53 AM
Xei

basicly put sacred in leik jar or sth and mix w/ geomtry and water dose that esplain it 4 u?
10-02-2009, 04:01 AM
DrunkenArse

no, you have to shake it up and down, then left and right and then forward and backwards. Then pour a little bit into another jar and repeat. Keep doing it until there is 1 molecule of sacred and geometry for every 10^10000 molecules of water. The less of it there is, the stronger it gets. Like homeopathy!
10-02-2009, 05:40 PM
Kuhnada29

Back on topic. I don't expect most people to understand Sacred Geometry. The ancients believed that the experience of Sacred Geometry was essential to the education of the soul. They knew that these patterns and codes were symbolic of our own inner realm and the subtle structure of awareness. SG is an ancient science that explores and explains the energy patterns that create and unify all things and reveals the precise way that the energy of Creation organizes itself.

The ancient Egyptian pyramids are so advanced, they can't be duplicated even with modern technology because they were constructed using sacred geometry. Even the human form comes from SG. You see sacred geometry every where in nature, and even in yourself. From DNA molecules, pine cones, and snowflakes to the universe itself.

http://www.crystalinks.com/sgvitruvian2.jpg

http://www.phidelity.com/photos/d/81...d+Geometry.jpg

Sacred Geometry is the blueprint to creation. Everything is one. It's extraordinary. If there is a God, he created everything using sacred geometry. Intelligent design.
10-02-2009, 09:40 PM
Sornaensis

Wow that's some deep stuff, man. Care to elaborate in such a way that there is actually some substance to your words other than "It is everything"? How can something be a geometry? Grammar plz.
10-02-2009, 10:10 PM
DrunkenArse

Well, following Oscar Klein, we can define "a" geometry to be the set of invariants under an action of a continuous group. For example, length, as defined by the Pythagorean theorem is invariant under action of the group SO(3, R), which is just the set orthogonal 3x3 matrices with determinant 1 or -1.
10-03-2009, 12:36 AM
pounce

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Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned

Well, following Oscar Klein, we can define "a" geometry to be the set of invariants under an action of a continuous group. For example, length, as defined by the Pythagorean theorem is invariant under action of the group SO(3, R), which is just the set orthogonal 3x3 matrices with determinant 1 or -1.

Lol, ~~Seis~~ A Roxxor got owned.

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The ancient Egyptian pyramids are so advanced, they can't be duplicated even with modern technology because they were constructed using sacred geometry.

Oh man oh man, this made me LOL so hard. A stack of stones in a pyramid shape, truly the most advanced achievement of mankind. More advanced than the computer and the MRI machine and the space shuttle. Oh and look it's a pyramid! Sacred geometry! :D

Ahahahaha I don't think I've laughed so hard from this mystical crap, thanks a lot. :) SERIOUSLY hilarious, sig-worthy in fact.
10-03-2009, 12:41 AM
Sornaensis

So I can call an E. coli cell a geometry and be correct since everything in the universe is a Sacred Geometry?
10-03-2009, 12:43 AM
pounce

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Originally Posted by CarmineEternity

Nice spam, Roxx.

HURR HURR CAN I PERRTISSIPETE IN UR GUISES DEISKUSHUN!?!??! WHATS A SACRED?! GEOMANTRY... I DONT GET IT> SOMEOME ESPLAIN ME

Well from reading this thread sacred geometry is just about people noticing things in nature that have been known about for years - fractals, phi, golden spirals - and claiming this is somehow sacred even though the ways in which these patterns come about are well-documented and rather trivial. :)
10-03-2009, 01:42 AM
Xei

^ win.

Can you define phi yet HardWired?

If not then you're just full of semantics. Words without knowledge. You understand this, right..?
10-03-2009, 01:43 AM
DrunkenArse

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Originally Posted by pounce

Lol, ~~Seis~~ A Roxxor got owned.

I wasn't pwning Roxxor. I was sort of making fun of the idea of sacred geometry by patently giving it more credit than it's worth. I fucked up the reference anyways. Oskar Klein was a physicist. The mathematician was Felix Klein.
10-03-2009, 04:35 AM
Scatterbrain

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Originally Posted by pounce

Well from reading this thread sacred geometry is just about people noticing things in nature that have been known about for years - fractals, phi, golden spirals - and claiming this is somehow sacred even though the ways in which these patterns come about are well-documented and rather trivial. :)

How did he get banned?
10-03-2009, 11:25 AM
Kuhnada29

http://lsdex.ru/wp-content/uploads/H.../lj/flower.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d.../bte-a7-77.jpg
10-10-2009, 09:39 PM
Dannon Oneironaut

I just found this thread and had to skip to the end because I didn't want to read all this stupid bickering. I am studying sacred geometry as well and would be interested in this thread more if the people who aren't into 'sacred' geometry would mind their own business.
The reason it is 'sacred' is because it is the whole pattern everything in the universe and nature follows, and for good reason. It also tells a story, a mythology, like the zodiac does, but it is rooted in patterns that humans didn't invent, but discovered. The story it tells may not interest some, but its applications are endless.
I see someone wanted to know what are the applications of sacred geometry? Well, where do I start? Obviously engineering and architecture. Building stable structures that are also pleasing to the eye. Oh, music also! The ratio between the vibrations of the notes of the scale also corresponds to the fibbonacci sequence and the golden mean. Understanding natural events like hurricanes, and crystals. Did you know that there is no seven sided crystal and also a septagon is the only -agon impossible to create with the sacred geomtrist's tools: the compass and the straight edge. The inert gases are the gases with seven electrons in their outer shell so they cannot bond to other atoms. Seven symbolizes the "Virgin" in the zodiac. Energy flows when encountering resistance ALWAYS forms golden spirals as do plants when they grow against the force of gravity. If you have a golden spiral made of wire hanging by the middle from a string and cut a piece off the spiral, it would stay balanced. This is why spirals are balanced, like a nautilus shell, so the slug doesn't have to relearn how to crawl as his shell grows, or a sheep doesn't have to rebalance his head as his horns grow. The golden ratio comes from the number five in the pentagon and pentagram.
Four symbolizes material existence and the Earth, and stability. That is why we build our houses square, and our beds, etc. Actually I think it would be more space efficient if we built out houses as hexagons.

Speaking of hexagons, they are cool! Hexagons are the most utilitarian shapes. Many of the creations people have invented are based off of the hexagon because it is so useful. It is the only shape besides a triangle and a square that can tesselate. It is the most stable structure that uses the least material, has the most space and is the most structurally stable. Look at beehives, for example.
The story of sacred geometry is the story of the numbers one through ten.
1=the UNIverse, undivided, the whole, God (dirty word here)
2=duality, opposition, competition, creation

1&2 are not considered numbers per se, but the parents of all numbers. 3 is the first real number.

3=harmony arising out of 1+2. the holy trinity, mother, father, child. Youth, adulthood, old-age. Material, mental, spiritual. Harmony
4= material existence. Creation. Form. Matter. The four elements
5= Transcendence. Beauty. Perfection (look at the five pointed star). Superstars. Excellence. (earning a star)
6=form, structure, utility. Also related to 12 which is measurement: zodiac, twelve hourse on the clock. Twelve months. Twelve inches to a foot. twelve in a dozen. twelve dozen makes a gross, etc.
7=the elusive virgin. The distant rainbow, octaves of vibrations (musical notes, colors,etc.)
8=higher form of four and two. Labyrinth. Spiritual growth in the material world. The chessboard of life. The path of life leading to:
9=the horizon. The last number. 3X3. Magic sqares etc. Something which, like the horizon, as you approach it it moves away.
10= beyond numbers.

The platonic solids come from the hexagon, the applications for which buckminster fuller's geodesic domes is an example.

This knowledge came from ancient Egypt and Sumeria where I believe we recieved this information from aliens. The people who built the temples where Masons (obviously) who formed their own secret society to preserve this knowledge (amongst other far out knowledge that you probably wouldn't believe). The masonic symbol is the compass and the straight edge which are the only tools you need to create all these shapes and geometric relationships with.

Man, I could go on and on.
But for now, let those of us who are interested in it discuss some more about Sacred Geometry and learn from each other and people who aren't into it or who don't believe in geometry (laugh) can leave us alone.
10-11-2009, 12:53 AM
DrunkenArse

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Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

Did you know that there is no seven sided crystal and also a septagon is the only -agon impossible to create with the sacred geomtrist's tools: the compass and the straight edge.

I'm not going to respond to the rest but this makes me very curious about "sacred geometry". Specifically, in real geometry one can only construct the n-gons where n is equal to some power of two times some number of distinct fermat primes. I believe Gauss proved this.

Given a circle, can you guys construct a square with the same area? Can you trisect angles? "Sacred geometry" seems too good to be true....
10-11-2009, 06:30 AM
Dannon Oneironaut

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Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned

Given a circle, can you guys construct a square with the same area? Can you trisect angles? "Sacred geometry" seems too good to be true....

Yes, that is called 'squaring a circle' and was used in building foundations for temples and cupolas with a dome. Trisecting angles is easy. All you need is a compass, a strait edge, and a pencil, and paper.http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/images/picture%2029.gif
STONEHENGE BUILT FROM A SQUARED CIRCLE AND A SIX POINTED STAR:
http://www.netmar.com/%7Emaat/archiv...stonehenge.jpg

I think that it is cool, that if one has studied astrology, that the aspects between different planets form geometric angles and shapes that are interpreted from the meanings of the angles and shapes of sacred geometry.

Another thing about sacred geometry: The VESICA PISCIS! http://ccwe.files.wordpress.com/2008...a-piscis-3.jpg
10-11-2009, 12:31 PM
Xei

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Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

Yes, that is called 'squaring a circle' and was used in building foundations for temples and cupolas with a dome. Trisecting angles is easy. All you need is a compass, a strait edge, and a pencil, and paper.

Then what??? :roll:
10-11-2009, 03:26 PM
DrunkenArse

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Originally Posted by Xei

Then what??? :roll:

Then you trisect the angle dimwit! You smart people sure are stupid.
10-11-2009, 04:03 PM
The Cusp

Look, every element on the periodic table is shaped like one of the platonic solids. But they are not perfect platonic solids. On a perfect PS, each line or side is the exact same length as every other one. When physical matter forms as a platonic solid, it is never a perfect PS.

If you divide two sides of a perfect PS into each other, you're always going to get 1 because they are exactly the same. But when you divide the different length sides from the slightly imperfect PS shape of real matter, you always get a harmonic ratio, a string of numbers that repeats to infinity like .6161616161... It never gives a finite number.

What's more, every physical thing has it's own unique harmonic ratio. for instance all gold atoms have the same unique ratio in their shape.

Sacred geometry is about working with those harmonic ratios. It's no coincidence that the pyramids were built using harmonic ratios. We just don't have sufficient knowledge to know what those ratios represent in the pyramids or how they can be used.
10-11-2009, 08:04 PM
Scatterbrain

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Originally Posted by The Cusp

We just don't have sufficient knowledge to know what those ratios represent in the pyramids or how they can be used.

So we don't know, but the ancient Egyptians, much less advanced than us in every aspect of science and technology, do know?
10-11-2009, 10:14 PM
DrunkenArse

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Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

So we don't know, but the ancient Egyptians, much less advanced than us in every aspect of science and technology, do know?

Well Duh! We have all sorts of hangups getting in the way of our quest for truth: "empiricism", "falsifiability", "logical proof", etc. The ancient Egyptians were free of these obstructions. They could go straight to the source of truth: human ~~bias~~ intuition. This is really easy stuff. If you question it again, I'm gonna start posting pretty pictures to back up my argument!
10-11-2009, 11:05 PM
Xei

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every element on the periodic table is shaped like one of the platonic solids

Elements don't have shapes.

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But when you divide the different length sides from the slightly imperfect PS shape of real matter, you always get a harmonic ratio, a string of numbers that repeats to infinity like .6161616161...

...that is not an infinite number. It is also a rational number, 61/99, and hence you are talking bunk as geometric problems give real numbers.

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Sacred geometry is about working with those harmonic ratios. It's no coincidence that the pyramids were built using harmonic ratios. We just don't have sufficient knowledge to know what those ratios represent in the pyramids or how they can be used.

-What is a harmonic ratio in this context?

-Where is such a ratio present in a pyramid, and how do we know that it is present in a pyramid in the first place if we don't know where it is present?

-The Egyptians didn't even know how long the diagonal of a unit square is for christsakes.

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