• Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views




    Results 1 to 15 of 15
    1. #1
      Member NeoSioType's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2007
      Gender
      Posts
      557
      Likes
      11

      I was reading Alice in wonderland

      Since it's public domain you can find it online for free. I got to say when I read the first chapter, it wasn't what I thought it would be like. Writing has seriously changed over the years.

      In today's world, I doubt with the publishers expectations such books would never meet the light of day. There was just something about it that made me want to tear it apart and rewrite it. Alice has a nasty habit of voicing the strangest inner dialogue, for example she wishes "she could fold up like a telescope" to fit through a door. Perhaps its just a time gap...

    2. #2
      D.V. Editor-in-Chief Original Poster's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 2006
      LD Count
      Lucid Now
      Gender
      Location
      3D
      Posts
      8,263
      Likes
      4139
      DJ Entries
      11
      I have a certain writing style I think would be equally unapreciated in today's environment.

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


    3. #3
      stop with all the anime metcalfracing's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jan 2007
      Location
      Failsworth, United Kingdom
      Posts
      740
      Likes
      0
      DJ Entries
      1
      Quote Originally Posted by Omnius Deus View Post
      I have a certain writing style I think would be equally unapreciated in today's environment.
      Its called latin...

    4. #4
      Banned
      Join Date
      Jul 2007
      Gender
      Location
      BC, Canada
      Posts
      32
      Likes
      0
      Quote Originally Posted by NeoSioType View Post
      In today's world, I doubt with the publishers expectations such books would never meet the light of day. There was just something about it that made me want to tear it apart and rewrite it. Alice has a nasty habit of voicing the strangest inner dialogue, for example she wishes "she could fold up like a telescope" to fit through a door. Perhaps its just a time gap...
      I don't know much about classic literature (although Alice is a favourite of mine), but I think that is one of the reasons why it is a classic. Alice is a unique character expressing herself in odd ways in a world completely unheard of at that time.

    5. #5
      Veteran of the DV Wars Man of Steel's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 2007
      LD Count
      ~35
      Gender
      Location
      Houston, TX
      Posts
      4,553
      Likes
      94
      Heh, go read the real classics like Robinson Crusoe, The Swiss Family Robinson, and A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. The unabridged versions, of course.

      Authors today can hardly compare with the mastery of words and imagination present in Mark Twain's work, or the family values and character inherent in The Swiss Family Robinson. Daniel Defoe's writing style is unique, as well.

    6. #6
      Drivel's Advocate Xaqaria's Avatar
      Join Date
      May 2007
      LD Count
      WhoIsJohnGalt?
      Gender
      Location
      Denver, CO Catchphrase: BullCockie!
      Posts
      5,589
      Likes
      930
      DJ Entries
      9
      The book makes a lot more sense when you read it from the perspective of a drug trip, which is the perspective it was written from. To put it simply, Alice is tripping. The things she says and does fits perfectly within that framework.

      The only thing that has changed over the years is that drug use doesn't seem to be as popular among writers as of late. Most likely due to it being illegal.

      The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
      Art
      Dream Journal Shaman Apprentice Chronicles

    7. #7
      Member kichu's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2005
      Gender
      Posts
      1,803
      Likes
      25
      DJ Entries
      40
      Quote Originally Posted by NeoSioType View Post
      ...voicing the strangest inner dialogue, for example she wishes "she could fold up like a telescope" to fit through a door.
      Umm...what?? What is so strange about that??

    8. #8
      Member NeoSioType's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2007
      Gender
      Posts
      557
      Likes
      11
      Quote Originally Posted by kichu View Post
      Umm...what?? What is so strange about that??
      would you have thought that way? If so, then forgive me. As a user posted above alice's thoughts are of the overall theme of the story, a perspective of a drug trip...

    9. #9
      Member kichu's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2005
      Gender
      Posts
      1,803
      Likes
      25
      DJ Entries
      40
      Quote Originally Posted by NeoSioType View Post
      would you have thought that way? If so, then forgive me. As a user posted above alice's thoughts are of the overall theme of the story, a perspective of a drug trip...
      Who cares if I would have thought that way? Just because I wouldn't have thought of something in a certain way doesn't make it strange. I just don't think the quote you used was particularly odd.

      And you're forgiven.

    10. #10
      Drivel's Advocate Xaqaria's Avatar
      Join Date
      May 2007
      LD Count
      WhoIsJohnGalt?
      Gender
      Location
      Denver, CO Catchphrase: BullCockie!
      Posts
      5,589
      Likes
      930
      DJ Entries
      9
      Quote Originally Posted by NeoSioType View Post
      would you have thought that way? If so, then forgive me. As a user posted above alice's thoughts are of the overall theme of the story, a perspective of a drug trip...
      I do agree though, you picked one of the more logical things that she says for an example. Wishing to fold up because the door is too small is not that strange.

      The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
      Art
      Dream Journal Shaman Apprentice Chronicles

    11. #11
      Member NeoSioType's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2007
      Gender
      Posts
      557
      Likes
      11
      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      I do agree though, you picked one of the more logical things that she says for an example. Wishing to fold up because the door is too small is not that strange.
      But then again it is an opinion...I guess I'm just a minority here.

      I suppose my thinking isn't nearly as creative as hers. The chances are slim if a tv remotes out of reach that I'm going to wish my arm could strech like a tape measurer.
      Last edited by NeoSioType; 12-22-2008 at 10:12 PM.

    12. #12
      Tripping on pumpking pie Dimethyltrip's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2008
      Gender
      Location
      France
      Posts
      44
      Likes
      0
      Alice in Wonderland is full of ingenious symbolism. Besides the fact that it already appealed to me from when I was little... more and more elements of the text became clear to me when I read it again later on.

      Like the rabbit, a cowardly extremely anxious figure, could very well represent that side of adults and their obsession with time. Think about it, terms like spending time, wasting time etc. all link to one thing: money. Since when can something so precious become a currency?

      It may have a peculiar sense of metaphor but I think the book just needs a different angle to be appreciated.
      Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken...-Tyler Durden

    13. #13
      Veteran of the DV Wars Man of Steel's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 2007
      LD Count
      ~35
      Gender
      Location
      Houston, TX
      Posts
      4,553
      Likes
      94
      Quote Originally Posted by Dimethyltrip View Post
      Alice in Wonderland is full of ingenious symbolism. Besides the fact that it already appealed to me from when I was little... more and more elements of the text became clear to me when I read it again later on.

      Like the rabbit, a cowardly extremely anxious figure, could very well represent that side of adults and their obsession with time. Think about it, terms like spending time, wasting time etc. all link to one thing: money. Since when can something so precious become a currency?

      It may have a peculiar sense of metaphor but I think the book just needs a different angle to be appreciated.
      Well put, Dimethyltrip. It's the creativity that always appealed to me as well, and the manner of transforming everyday sayings and objects into surreal reality. That's what makes the book a classic. From the Cheshire Cat to the Mad Hatter to the Queen of Hearts (it was Hearts, wasn't it? It's been years...).

    14. #14
      Member Nitroanarchygirl's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2008
      Gender
      Location
      Melbourne, Australia
      Posts
      22
      Likes
      0
      I'm personally a fan of Alice in Wonderland. Sure it's weird. But didn't Lewis Carol write it when he was on opium? But it's fun nonetheless.

      In year 11 Studio Arts we did a whole unti based on Alice In Wonderland, so I guess I've just come to appreciate it.
      -Lucid Dream Count-
      3 DILDs

      Photographic/Artistic Dream Journal

    15. #15
      Banned
      Join Date
      Apr 2007
      Location
      Out Chasing Rabbits
      Posts
      15,193
      Likes
      935
      The book is actuall called Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Alice in Wonderland was the Disney interpretation of it.

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •