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      Wormholes



      What you think?

      I think they can definately exist, but exotic matter does not occur naturally and we will have to manufacture it artificially through particle manipulation and such, but when we do we shall be able to create these Holes of Worms!
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      I think subatomic particles are enigmatic enough that we will be able to produce a few exotic matter particles at a time without much difficulty, even with particle accelerators roughly the same scale as LHC. But if we can do that, we should be able to open wormholes with large enough openings in space and time to let through whole photons. So this means we should easily be able to get instant telecommunication between distant planets by just building particle accelerators, which isn't too difficult.

      But actual ships going through wormholes is probably impossible unless a new metric is discovered.

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      How does someone specify where the two openings of the wormhole are?
      I live in your philosophy and religion forums.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ClassyElf View Post
      How does someone specify where the two openings of the wormhole are?
      The metric shown in the video has a singularity at each opening. A better question would be, 'How do you address singularities?'. My guess would be that the singularities start as one and are then separated.

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      Clocks arent moved by time they are moved by space if theres no space a clock cant move
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      Quote Originally Posted by DarkComrade View Post
      Clocks arent moved by time they are moved by space if theres no space a clock cant move
      What is this supposed to mean?

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      Quote Originally Posted by DarkComrade View Post
      Clocks arent moved by time they are moved by space if theres no space a clock cant move
      If there's no time, a clock is useless. Contribute something to the discussion or don't take part.


      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      The metric shown in the video has a singularity at each opening. A better question would be, 'How do you address singularities?'. My guess would be that the singularities start as one and are then separated.
      I think his question was more along the lines of, how do we know what the opening of a wormhole looks like? If it even looks like anything.
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      Uhm... Time is measured by the Suns movement wich cant move if the Sun doesnt have any space to move in, sooo clocks are moved by space.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ExoByte View Post
      I think his question was more along the lines of, how do we know what the opening of a wormhole looks like? If it even looks like anything.
      He used the word "specify", so I interpreted in the most sensical way. As for actually detecting the openings, well, you know where they are to start with. It's like asking how you know where the protons end up in a particle accelerator. Well, it's all in the design of the machine.


      Quote Originally Posted by DarkComrade View Post
      Uhm... Time is measured by the Suns movement wich cant move if the Sun doesnt have any space to move in, sooo clocks are moved by space.
      Uhm... still makes no sense whatsoever. And time is measured by atomic decay, actually.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post




      Uhm... still makes no sense whatsoever. And time is measured by atomic decay, actually.
      Doesnt matter time is an illusion anyway
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      Doesn't time become somewhat real when we start counting the times the earth is orbiting the sun?

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      Quote Originally Posted by DarkComrade View Post
      Doesnt matter time is an illusion anyway
      i lol'd.

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      Someday we'll wake.
      This was that cult, and the prisoners said it had always existed and always would exist, hidden in distant wastes and dark places all over the world until the time when the great priest Cthulhu, from his dark house in the mighty city of R'lyeh under the waters, should rise and bring the earth again beneath his sway.

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      Light is so god damn interesting! Meh - I think humans will kill themselves before we get to explore any interesting and meaningful things like wormholes and the possibility of time travel.
      Humans are barely out of the jungle. We like to think that we are highly technically advanced and civilized. We're not. We're probably the most un-civilized animal on this planet. Humans are still on the "divide and conquer" mindset. We're still trying to control each other on a mass scale, paralyzing any important social, politicial, or technical advancement. How primitive we really are.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SpecialInterests View Post
      We're probably the most un-civilized animal on this planet. Humans are still on the "divide and conquer" mindset. We're still trying to control each other on a mass scale, paralyzing any important social, politicial, or technical advancement. How primitive we really are.
      Right. Cuz clearly if you gave a bunch of monkeys or dogs opposable thumbs and guns, they would all make world peace.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DarkComrade View Post
      Clocks arent moved by time they are moved by space if theres no space a clock cant move
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      At least he added something to the discussion, unlike you right now. Quit being a damned hypocrite, and stop psycho-analyzing people that you've only seen online for what, maybe a month? If drewmandan causes you a problem, either ignore it or stick him on your block list.

      Semi-On topic, As for the statement, actually it does make sense. Fact of the matter is we're animals plain and simple. Just like any other creature. Our reactions to things are really no different than another animals. Our brains and minds are more complex and give us more possibilities, but we're still subject to animalistic instincts. Fighting, and perhaps even killing, one of our own kind through provocation, anger or other stimuli. We call it murder, but when provoked by even one of their own kind, other animals will act the same.

      We were at least able to use our minds to come up with good ideals and systems to put in place to help stop such things. Obviously they're not very effective, however. I hate humanity, but to call it the least civilized species on this planet? That's just plain ignorant.

      Now, as for actually on-topic... lets get back to discussing wormholes.
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      Quote Originally Posted by DarkComrade View Post
      Clocks arent moved by time they are moved by space if theres no space a clock cant move
      No, most modern clocks run on batteries. They need space and time to exist in, not to be moved by.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Scatterbrain View Post
      No, most modern clocks run on batteries. They need space and time to exist in, not to be moved by.
      I think his point was the clock wouldn't move in space... Whether it needs batteries or not, it won't click over in space.

      Correct?
      This was that cult, and the prisoners said it had always existed and always would exist, hidden in distant wastes and dark places all over the world until the time when the great priest Cthulhu, from his dark house in the mighty city of R'lyeh under the waters, should rise and bring the earth again beneath his sway.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DeathCell View Post
      I think his point was the clock wouldn't move in space... Whether it needs batteries or not, it won't click over in space.

      Correct?
      I still don't get it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      I still don't get it.
      I thought I heard this a long time ago, whether it's true or not..

      I haven't finished building my spaceship...
      This was that cult, and the prisoners said it had always existed and always would exist, hidden in distant wastes and dark places all over the world until the time when the great priest Cthulhu, from his dark house in the mighty city of R'lyeh under the waters, should rise and bring the earth again beneath his sway.

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      I didn't watch the video, but, how would you know where the other side of the wormhole is? I mean, what if you came out in the middle of a star lol? Would you even be able to see through the wormhole or what might it look like?

      Nevermind I did watch, I've seen that episode before. It's a show called The Universe on the history channel. One time I smoked some pot and I watched that episode there, and it blew my mind. It was so amazing at the time I had to change the channel lol.
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      Quote Originally Posted by blahaha View Post
      I didn't watch the video, but, how would you know where the other side of the wormhole is? I mean, what if you came out in the middle of a star lol? Would you even be able to see through the wormhole or what might it look like?
      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      The metric shown in the video has a singularity at each opening. A better question would be, 'How do you address singularities?'. My guess would be that the singularities start as one and are then separated.

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      Quote Originally Posted by blahaha View Post
      Nevermind I did watch, I've seen that episode before. It's a show called The Universe on the history channel. [color=not white any more]One time I smoked some pot and I watched that episode there, and it blew my mind. It was so amazing at the time I had to change the channel lol.[/color]
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      Quote Originally Posted by DarkComrade View Post
      Uhm... Time is measured by the Suns movement wich cant move if the Sun doesnt have any space to move in, sooo clocks are moved by space.
      you cannot say that a clock is moved by space alone nor can you say it is time alone. this is why it is referred to as time-space (or time/space). the fact is without the two working together everything would cease to exist. If time was alone, there would be nothing it was measuring thus it would cease to exist. If space alone existed, everything would be yet to be created and infinitely old all at once, thus ceasing to exist. so the two being separated on any account is a scientific impossibility.

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