In god we trust

[Matt5678]

should it be removed/changed? discuss

[Spartiate]

You think that's bad? We have the freaking queen of England on our money, we're not even in the UK!

[Mes Tarrant]

I couldn't care less. I don't have nearly enough of it to be that picky. Maybe once I'm a billionaire, I can start demanding that my $100 bills are customized.

[Moonbeam]

Yes, we should have the right of freedom from religion. (And I think it's time for a revolution to get rid of that monarchy!)

[Universal Mind]

No way. The USA is a Christian nation, and it was founded on Christian principles by hardcore Baptists who demanded that the obviously true religion be crammed down the throats of everybody in God's favorite country. The only thing that should change is that the currency should use God's more specific name and say, "In Jesus We Trust". It would not be saying which Jesus, so it would be fair to everybody. Atheists and polytheists are not real Americans, so they can just go back to the dark ages somewhere else and throw rocks at mammoths. I voted "Yes".

[Moonbeam]

UM, are you getting ready for when Ron Paul wins? Sounds like you're practicing.

[Matt5678]

Atheists and polytheists are not real Americans, so they can just go back to the dark ages somewhere else and throw rocks at mammoths. that is a good point, i suppose its not really a religious thing and its more about whether or not you believe in equality

[jaasum]

No way. The USA is a Christian nation, and it was founded on Christian principles by hardcore Baptists who demanded that the obviously true religion be crammed down the throats of everybody in God's favorite country. The only thing that should change is that the currency should use God's more specific name and say, "In Jesus We Trust". It would not be saying which Jesus, so it would be fair to everybody. Atheists and polytheists are not real Americans, so they can just go back to the dark ages somewhere else and throw rocks at mammoths. I voted "Yes". Hahahhahahaha

[Sornaensis]

No way. The USA is a Christian nation, and it was founded on Christian principles by hardcore Baptists who demanded that the obviously true religion be crammed down the throats of everybody in God's favorite country. The only thing that should change is that the currency should use God's more specific name and say, "In Jesus We Trust". It would not be saying which Jesus, so it would be fair to everybody. Atheists and polytheists are not real Americans, so they can just go back to the dark ages somewhere else and throw rocks at mammoths. I voted "Yes". Too bad that isn't true .

[NeAvO]

(And I think it's time for a revolution to get rid of that monarchy!) I'm behind you 100%

[Moonbeam]

I'm behind you 100% No, you have to go first.

[Spartiate]

I'm behind you 100% You should know what the penalty for regicide is >_>...

[Lord_Pwnage]

Of course it should. I vote yes.

[Universal Mind]

Of course it should. I vote yes. You have one of the funniest screen names I have ever come across.

[pj]

I've been going back and forth about chiming in on this thread, and have finally decided to do so. I voted no, and it has nothing to do with my Christian faith. The reason is because I see that phrase and idea as fundamental to liberty. The entire legal system of the U.S. is founded on the idea of inalienable individual rights: "... are endowed by their Creator..." and all that. Whether you believe in God or not, removing the concept of Creator from the U.S. constitution strips the foundation out from under it. Rights would no longer be sacred endowments of individuals, but rather become an intellectual concept ripe for re-interpretation. Without the recognition that rights transcend the whim of man, we are nothing but slaves. Rights that exist by the grace of government are not rights at all - they are privileges, waiting to be exploited, granted and revoked by corrupt humans wielding the power of government. Believe in God nor not, but be careful where you choose to credit the source of your rights. Do YOU want to entrust your liberty to your fellow humans and the governments they create to empower themselves? Not me.

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That would be like removing Christmas decorations from public places because it promotes Christianity. Really, how pathetic is it that this would bother some people? 90% of this country believes in God and the last time I checked this is still a democracy.

[Universal Mind]

I've been going back and forth about chiming in on this thread, and have finally decided to do so. I voted no, and it has nothing to do with my Christian faith. The reason is because I see that phrase and idea as fundamental to liberty. The entire legal system of the U.S. is founded on the idea of inalienable individual rights: "... are endowed by their Creator..." and all that. Whether you believe in God or not, removing the concept of Creator from the U.S. constitution strips the foundation out from under it. Rights would no longer be sacred endowments of individuals, but rather become an intellectual concept ripe for re-interpretation. Without the recognition that rights transcend the whim of man, we are nothing but slaves. Rights that exist by the grace of government are not rights at all - they are privileges, waiting to be exploited, granted and revoked by corrupt humans wielding the power of government. Believe in God nor not, but be careful where you choose to credit the source of your rights. Do YOU want to entrust your liberty to your fellow humans and the governments they create to empower themselves? Not me. "Creator" is a much more vague term than "God". I believe in a creator, but I don't think it is a guy with a mind and a personality. I think it is a scientific principle. I disagree with the founders on the idea that the creator directly gave us our rights. I think those come from public conscience. Still, "creator" and "God" are not synonymous terms, and putting a religious statement on money is using government as a religious function, which I think is unfair and sets a dangerous precedent. It would be better to say, "In The Creator We Trust", but I think it would be even better than that to keep the issue off money completely. That would be like removing Christmas decorations from public places because it promotes Christianity. Really, how pathetic is it that this would bother some people? 90% of this country believes in God and the last time I checked this is still a democracy. Christmans should not be a government function either. I am not bothered by Christmas. If people have lights and manger scenes in their yards, I am fine with it and think a lot of such yards look really cool, but the government should not be in that business. We are not merely a democracy. We are a constitutional democratic-republic, and minorities have rights. Government should never be in the religion business, no matter what percentage of the people are religious. Government and religion do not mix. Somewhere down the road, it is possible that Islam will be the dominant religion in the U.S. I think the fanatics that are screwing up the world so bad right now are most likely in the process of completely obliterating that possibility, but it is still somewhat of a possibility. In such a future, the Muslim majority would believe that "creator" means "Allah", and the currency would say something like, "In Allah We Trust". What would you think of that?