Thread: Pain

I had been talking to my friend who was almost in the Navy seals. The poor guy actually made it through BT. Basic training for the Seals known as BUDS - Basic Underwater Demolition School. Some of the crap he endured wow.
That in itself he had to deal with physical pain and endurance challenges. HE got what is now his wife pregnant and dropped out after the BUDS training.

My point, what was it again/
He had never gotten as far as to get into some of the physiological training that they also do.
We were discussing pain. He seems to have a high tolerance for pain anyway which I am sure is a factor.
How much can pain be manipulated?
I don't feel pain. Can you believe yourself.
My thoughts were recognition. Pain is our bodies mechanism to tell us something is wrong. If we recognize it as such we can then perceive it from another angle.

I tested my theory.
The results were scary. We have incredible capabilities.
Add adrenaline to this and wow.

How far have you pushed the limits of physical pain?
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I take pain very well as well but really, I tend to avoid stuff that causes pain. That way its not an issue. So I can't really claim to have gone through serious pain, I have done a fairly good job at avoiding it heh. Basicly just what everyone goes through, fall over, get a tooth pulled, small cut and stuff.

O wow you know you said you didn't feel pain, you do havethat illness thingmy friend has. I can't remember the name but like the pain response never reaches his brain or something. So if i stabbed him with a klnife he wouldn't realise it. It's really dangerous, one time he fell over and had broken his foot, but he made it much worse because he kept trying to walk on it because he assumed it wasnt broken it was just being awkward.:p

Originally Posted by joey11223

I can't remember the name but like the pain response never reaches his brain or something. So if i stabbed him with a klnife he wouldn't realise it. It's really dangerous, one time he fell over and had broken his foot, but he made it much worse because he kept trying to walk on it because he assumed it wasnt broken it was just being awkward.:p

CIPA?! Are you sure?, since it is very rare, people with it can't even feel cold or heat, I think they can't even feel when they have to pee.

How far have I pushed the limits?

In 1986, I fell off of a cliff, breaking my S4 and S5 vertebrae and splitting my pelvis.

I was also a relatively newly sobered up alcoholic - 4 years in, actually, but still very much afraid of doing anything to get me back into the old loop. As a result, I refused pain control medication. That got especially interesting during the torturous maneuvers then needed for the CAT scans and x-rays and all else I had to endure over the next few weeks. I passed out a couple times from pain during that stretch... but obviously got through it - and got through it sober.

I'm no stoic - I just perceived a far greater risk to my life than the pain being endured.

If you think about it, people can take a lot more pain than they think they can. They just never really try. I remember in my junior school when that "coins" game was popular. You would flick a coin into someone elses knuckles, and the loser was the person who gives up. If it was someones first time against a person who had played before you knew they would lose. It's like on Fight Club where he says, "On someones first night at fight club their ass was a wad of cookie dough. After a few weeks he was carved out of wood" - you get used to pain after a while. I find that you don't really have to feel pain if you don't want to. I know I didn't complain when I fell down the stairs and broke my arm, I just tried to distract myself with other things around me and tried to ignore the pain.

Originally Posted by pj

How far have I pushed the limits?

In 1986, I fell off of a cliff, breaking my S4 and S5 vertebrae and splitting my pelvis.

I was also a relatively newly sobered up alcoholic - 4 years in, actually, but still very much afraid of doing anything to get me back into the old loop. As a result, I refused pain control medication. That got especially interesting during the torturous maneuvers then needed for the CAT scans and x-rays and all else I had to endure over the next few weeks. I passed out a couple times from pain during that stretch... but obviously got through it - and got through it sober.

I'm no stoic - I just perceived a far greater risk to my life than the pain being endured.

Wow... That's some will power! What exactly is "splitting" your pelvis...?

Originally Posted by Sortilegio

CIPA?! Are you sure?, since it is very rare, people with it can't even feel cold or heat, I think they can't even feel when they have to pee.

I don't think it's that actually. I seem to recall it isnt everywhere, i think he actually suffers from a form of paralysis in certainareas of his body. I do seem to remember he feels in some places. I don't think its that illness you said, as he isn't retarded as far as i remember( i dont see him anymore). I think it was actually a form of nerve damager in certain areas, like he could use his foot but it didn't respons to stimuli very well, like it was numb.( hence when it broke he knew there was something wrong with it but he wasnt getting the pain signals)

I doubt its the lesser version of CIPA, like Congenital insensitivity to pain( which seems different to the one you sdaid, the one you said is even rarer, and this one fits him more, but it seems like a whole body thing, not just a some areas thing.

So i would say he suffers from partial nerve damage or something. Though saying that i know what he has is very rare, because i remember he told me he was the first person with the problem his doctor had seen. So if there are levels of that condition then maybe.

I think I've got a moderate-to-high tolerance for pain. Every time I feel pain, I remind myself that it's only a feeling - only the nerve endings firing to create the uncomfortable perception of pain. After I think of it that way, I can pretty much shut off the pain response.

I don't put myself in any position to voluntarily cause myself pain, but in the times that I've been in a painful situation, it was never to the point that I couldn't put mind over matter, even after breaking my back and ankle, and slashing open my wrist, and various other accidents (including painful cat bites).

Though I'd have to admit that if I cracked my pelvis in half like PJ did, I probably would have no choice but to black out from the pain too. Your body hits a point that it just shuts down - and maybe that's a good thing... if you're unconscious, you can't feel the pain

Originally Posted by joey11223

I don't think it's that actually. I seem to recall it isnt everywhere, i think he actually suffers from a form of paralysis in certainareas of his body. I do seem to remember he feels in some places. I don't think its that illness you said, as he isn't retarded as far as i remember( i dont see him anymore). I think it was actually a form of nerve damager in certain areas, like he could use his foot but it didn't respons to stimuli very well, like it was numb.( hence when it broke he knew there was something wrong with it but he wasnt getting the pain signals)

I doubt its the lesser version of CIPA, like Congenital insensitivity to pain( which seems different to the one you sdaid, the one you said is even rarer, and this one fits him more, but it seems like a whole body thing, not just a some areas thing.

So i would say he suffers from partial nerve damage or something. Though saying that i know what he has is very rare, because i remember he told me he was the first person with the problem his doctor had seen. So if there are levels of that condition then maybe.

my grandpa damaged nerve tissue in his foot andhe cant feel it. He always weres shoes cause say he stepped on a nail and i got infected he wouldnt know. So i say dont get rid of pain just get used to it

I do have a pretty high pain tolerance, although i havent gone through any moments of excruciating pain yet.

After reading some of your replies my initial intent was to explore pain and our minds ability to bend it.
I feel like an ass for taking in such an arrogant manner when I have read personal accounts to people who have not had a choice.

It does seem like the accounts did however come down to mental strength.

Originally Posted by Howie

After reading some of your replies my initial intent was to explore pain and our minds ability to bend it.
I feel like an ass for taking in such an arrogant manner when I have read personal accounts to people who have not had a choice.

It does seem like the accounts did however come down to mental strength.

Don't feel that way, please! I never read anything here as arrogant. Who DOES have a choice with pain, really? It is a life experience. We all go through it.

Like all your topics, Howie, this one is thought provoking and generating a very fascinating conversation, revealing a lot about some of us here. That's never a bad thing.

Originally Posted by pj

Don't feel that way, please! I never read anything here as arrogant. Who DOES have a choice with pain, really? It is a life experience. We all go through it.

Like all your topics, Howie, this one is thought provoking and generating a very fascinating conversation, revealing a lot about some of us here. That's never a bad thing.

Thanks pj.
It is humbling to here of others ordeals and how they have persevered.