Thread: Pain

I take pain very well as well but really, I tend to avoid stuff that causes pain. That way its not an issue. So I can't really claim to have gone through serious pain, I have done a fairly good job at avoiding it heh. Basicly just what everyone goes through, fall over, get a tooth pulled, small cut and stuff.

O wow you know you said you didn't feel pain, you do havethat illness thingmy friend has. I can't remember the name but like the pain response never reaches his brain or something. So if i stabbed him with a klnife he wouldn't realise it. It's really dangerous, one time he fell over and had broken his foot, but he made it much worse because he kept trying to walk on it because he assumed it wasnt broken it was just being awkward.:p

Originally Posted by joey11223

I can't remember the name but like the pain response never reaches his brain or something. So if i stabbed him with a klnife he wouldn't realise it. It's really dangerous, one time he fell over and had broken his foot, but he made it much worse because he kept trying to walk on it because he assumed it wasnt broken it was just being awkward.:p

CIPA?! Are you sure?, since it is very rare, people with it can't even feel cold or heat, I think they can't even feel when they have to pee.

How far have I pushed the limits?

In 1986, I fell off of a cliff, breaking my S4 and S5 vertebrae and splitting my pelvis.

I was also a relatively newly sobered up alcoholic - 4 years in, actually, but still very much afraid of doing anything to get me back into the old loop. As a result, I refused pain control medication. That got especially interesting during the torturous maneuvers then needed for the CAT scans and x-rays and all else I had to endure over the next few weeks. I passed out a couple times from pain during that stretch... but obviously got through it - and got through it sober.

I'm no stoic - I just perceived a far greater risk to my life than the pain being endured.

If you think about it, people can take a lot more pain than they think they can. They just never really try. I remember in my junior school when that "coins" game was popular. You would flick a coin into someone elses knuckles, and the loser was the person who gives up. If it was someones first time against a person who had played before you knew they would lose. It's like on Fight Club where he says, "On someones first night at fight club their ass was a wad of cookie dough. After a few weeks he was carved out of wood" - you get used to pain after a while. I find that you don't really have to feel pain if you don't want to. I know I didn't complain when I fell down the stairs and broke my arm, I just tried to distract myself with other things around me and tried to ignore the pain.

Originally Posted by Sortilegio

CIPA?! Are you sure?, since it is very rare, people with it can't even feel cold or heat, I think they can't even feel when they have to pee.

I don't think it's that actually. I seem to recall it isnt everywhere, i think he actually suffers from a form of paralysis in certainareas of his body. I do seem to remember he feels in some places. I don't think its that illness you said, as he isn't retarded as far as i remember( i dont see him anymore). I think it was actually a form of nerve damager in certain areas, like he could use his foot but it didn't respons to stimuli very well, like it was numb.( hence when it broke he knew there was something wrong with it but he wasnt getting the pain signals)

I doubt its the lesser version of CIPA, like Congenital insensitivity to pain( which seems different to the one you sdaid, the one you said is even rarer, and this one fits him more, but it seems like a whole body thing, not just a some areas thing.

So i would say he suffers from partial nerve damage or something. Though saying that i know what he has is very rare, because i remember he told me he was the first person with the problem his doctor had seen. So if there are levels of that condition then maybe.

I think I've got a moderate-to-high tolerance for pain. Every time I feel pain, I remind myself that it's only a feeling - only the nerve endings firing to create the uncomfortable perception of pain. After I think of it that way, I can pretty much shut off the pain response.

I don't put myself in any position to voluntarily cause myself pain, but in the times that I've been in a painful situation, it was never to the point that I couldn't put mind over matter, even after breaking my back and ankle, and slashing open my wrist, and various other accidents (including painful cat bites).

Though I'd have to admit that if I cracked my pelvis in half like PJ did, I probably would have no choice but to black out from the pain too. Your body hits a point that it just shuts down - and maybe that's a good thing... if you're unconscious, you can't feel the pain

yes what you have to do is convince yourself pain is good, it means power, jsut convine yourself somehow it is a good feeling.

When i fall over and get a huge bloody graze on my leg, i always run a hot bath as soon as i get home and dip my leg right in and let it sizzle. I actually like that feeling.

First I did not mean to come across as I do not feel pain. I meant it as an attitude of sorts.
Basically the perception of pain and manipulating it.
Much like pj experience and also I think rob makes a point that we can endure much more pain than we are given ourselves credit. Depending on the situation. Necessity.

I would guess passing out from pain is a limit.
Can it be raised or does each individual have a cut off point?

Can pain be something once removed, dealt with mentally outside itself?
The recognition of pain liberates you from the experience of the high level of pain.

Originally Posted by pj

How far have I pushed the limits?

In 1986, I fell off of a cliff, breaking my S4 and S5 vertebrae and splitting my pelvis.

I was also a relatively newly sobered up alcoholic - 4 years in, actually, but still very much afraid of doing anything to get me back into the old loop. As a result, I refused pain control medication. That got especially interesting during the torturous maneuvers then needed for the CAT scans and x-rays and all else I had to endure over the next few weeks. I passed out a couple times from pain during that stretch... but obviously got through it - and got through it sober.

I'm no stoic - I just perceived a far greater risk to my life than the pain being endured.

Wow... That's some will power! What exactly is "splitting" your pelvis...?

Originally Posted by joey11223

I don't think it's that actually. I seem to recall it isnt everywhere, i think he actually suffers from a form of paralysis in certainareas of his body. I do seem to remember he feels in some places. I don't think its that illness you said, as he isn't retarded as far as i remember( i dont see him anymore). I think it was actually a form of nerve damager in certain areas, like he could use his foot but it didn't respons to stimuli very well, like it was numb.( hence when it broke he knew there was something wrong with it but he wasnt getting the pain signals)

I doubt its the lesser version of CIPA, like Congenital insensitivity to pain( which seems different to the one you sdaid, the one you said is even rarer, and this one fits him more, but it seems like a whole body thing, not just a some areas thing.

So i would say he suffers from partial nerve damage or something. Though saying that i know what he has is very rare, because i remember he told me he was the first person with the problem his doctor had seen. So if there are levels of that condition then maybe.

my grandpa damaged nerve tissue in his foot andhe cant feel it. He always weres shoes cause say he stepped on a nail and i got infected he wouldnt know. So i say dont get rid of pain just get used to it

Originally Posted by MrGrEmLiN

Wow... That's some will power! What exactly is "splitting" your pelvis...?

Cracked it in half, like Burns restated it. The way it was split allowed me to start bearing weight on my left leg again pretty quickly, but my right leg was unsupported and also suffered the most from the nerve damage.

The worst part of that whole thing was all the torn cartridge in the groin area. Letting that heal took a LONG time. The sensations as I started bearing weight on my right leg again, months later, were bizarre and uncomfortable to say the least.

What was REALLY bizarre was getting over the new (and not unreasonable) fear of heights that resulted. I experienced psychosomatic pain any time I climbed or neared an edge that was more than a couple feet. I KNEW the pain wasn't real, but couldn't stop it or shut it off.

After a few years of this, I finally took a week off work and volunteered to help a carpenter friend frame up a three-story house, just pushing myself through the whole thing. By day three I was back to my normal self... but the first couple of those days were hell.

Now that is gutsy, and extremely smart. What better way to overcome your fear than facing it head on?

Now, I have the thing where I don't feel pain. Except it's not really not feeling it, but more of not acknowledging that it's really there. The way I look at it, pain is all in your head.

I've always had an extremely high tolerance to pain, no idea way. But when I started doing ecstasy a lot, it really sent that tolerance sky high.

I mean, when I broke my collar bone, I didn't even know it was broken. I kept playing in the rugby scrimmage after it happened until practice was over. Didn't realize something was wrong until I couldn't take off my shirt in the change room.

I do have a pretty high pain tolerance, although i havent gone through any moments of excruciating pain yet.

After reading some of your replies my initial intent was to explore pain and our minds ability to bend it.
I feel like an ass for taking in such an arrogant manner when I have read personal accounts to people who have not had a choice.

It does seem like the accounts did however come down to mental strength.

Originally Posted by Howie

After reading some of your replies my initial intent was to explore pain and our minds ability to bend it.
I feel like an ass for taking in such an arrogant manner when I have read personal accounts to people who have not had a choice.

It does seem like the accounts did however come down to mental strength.

Don't feel that way, please! I never read anything here as arrogant. Who DOES have a choice with pain, really? It is a life experience. We all go through it.

Like all your topics, Howie, this one is thought provoking and generating a very fascinating conversation, revealing a lot about some of us here. That's never a bad thing.

Originally Posted by pj

Don't feel that way, please! I never read anything here as arrogant. Who DOES have a choice with pain, really? It is a life experience. We all go through it.

Like all your topics, Howie, this one is thought provoking and generating a very fascinating conversation, revealing a lot about some of us here. That's never a bad thing.

Thanks pj.
It is humbling to here of others ordeals and how they have persevered.