 Originally Posted by imran_p
But following the laws Saddam was kileld for, so Blair and Bush also deserve death.
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I quoted that statement because it sums up most of what you keep saying. You seem to have some incredibly severe hatred for my country and the country from which we are a spin-off, and I don't quite get why. The United States has allied with some bad people, and some of those alliances have gone in really bad directions, but as far as I know our alliances have always been set up for the right reasons. We allied with the Hussein regime because we had a common enemy, Iran. In the beginning, we did not quite know what we were dealing with, and we did not know the terrible turns against us the Hussein regime would later take. The alliance turned out to be a mistake, but hindsight is 20/20.
We allied with the Soviet Union in World War II because we had the common enemy of the Nazis. Our alliance was necessary to save the world, including you. I hope you have appreciation for at least that much of the sacrifices my military has made. 1.1 million Americans were either killed or injured in World War II, and no matter how much you talk about "U.S. interests", the fact is that those soldiers did have saving the entire world in mind when they were going through nightmares worse than you or I will ever know. Both of my grandfathers survived it, and they would have told you that they were fighting for a great deal more than U.S. interests. We also prevented the Soviet Union from taking over the world. We used their weak system, communism, against them as we crippled their economy with the arms race. Now those people are free. You have no idea how fortunate you are that we did that. Fighting the Vietnam War, where 55,000 American soldiers sacrificed their lives for the future of the world, was part of the fight to stop the Soviets (North Vietnam was their puppet.) from taking over the world. That is just some of what my country has done for you.
I don't expect you to worship my country or to even show appreciation. I am just baffled by the immense hatred I see from people. Bush's intentions can at least be debatably presented as good for the future of the world. But nobody disputes the fact that Hussein was all about Hussein. He did commit genocide and mindless terrorism. He ran his country with fear tactics. People were killed for breathing the wrong way. Anybody suspected of the slightest opposition was never seen again. People were tortured to death in front of their family members. I am talking about hundreds of thousands of people. Do you know anything about the sarin gas (a WMD) attack on the Kurds? Hussein was genocidal. That is a fact. He supported Hamas and provided financial incentives to the families of suicide bombers. Can you tell me what good things the Hussein regime did for the world? Of course not. What has Bush done that is equally evil? Innocents have been killed in this present very necessary war (44,000... But some sources seem to enjoy saying as high as 2 million, which is a crock), but it has not been U.S. policy to target civilians. It was Hussein's policy, but we have not been doing that. The insurgents, which America bashers never talk about unless they are condoning their actions, have been targetting civilians, not us. Well, you might find a very few examples of deviant soldiers in our bunch of 140,000. We have gone through a lot of trouble to use precision weapons when we could easily do what Hussein would have done if he had had our level of power. We could turn the Middle East into a sheet of glass with oil refineries all over it in a very short time. Do you doubt for even a second that Hussein would have done that and worse if he had had our level of power? Instead, we announce to civilians when we are going to attack, use precision weapons, lose our own soldiers, and put up with highly heated controversy from even our own allies and our own citizens. Would Hussein have done all of that? Would he have ever even talked about freeing a country? There is NO comparison.
How sure are you that Iraq will not end up being a successful democracy in the long run? If they do, can you see any benefit to world security that will result from it? Think about it... A democracy in the heart of the Middle East, where people will grow up with things to live for, which will take away their ambitions of mindlessly killing masses of innocents in hopes of having orgies with virgins. This will influence a huge spirit for democracy in the region. Do you have anything positive to say about my country?
For those of you saying that revenge is worthless, I highly disagree with you. The people who loved innocent, unnecessary victims of Hussein desperately wanted revenge on him, and they deserved it. That alone makes it something of value.
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