Quote Originally Posted by becomingagodo View Post
so your saying that it a generalization like the left brain logic right brain creative so idiots can get a kindergarden grasp on what the brain does at that subconscious is just a simple dumb explanation on what the brain does.
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No. “It’s created” so we can differentiate between referring to one area of the brain’s function and the other. As an example: the concept of continents having different names is not simply a dumb explanation of what a landmass is.

depend if you believe the theory with proof or without it.[/b]
Heh, usually I’m pretty good about throwing in all my “I believe,” “I think” and “it’s my opinion”(s) to clearly state my opinion. Took it for granted after I started cause I have to hurry up and post, when at work.
But any way, I would call that more “subjective evidence,” than proof. I’ve been dealing with my dreams for more than long enough to provide myself with proof enough to consider that a possibility. You wouldn't believe how many concepts that I’ve forgotten, consciously, have resurfaced during dreams. Pieces of my life, or information that I’ve learned and lost, often make either small cameos or play predominant roles in my dreams. Constantly. Which do you think would be the fallacy: making an informal hypothesis, based on not only your own personal experience but the experiences you hear of countless others, all the time (being in a place like Dream Views, perhaps?), or simply turning yourself off to the existence of the subconscious (or that interpretation of it) because there is debate in the scientific community about it? Remember; judging by everything you’ve shown, all there is, is conflicting evidence – an argument – it doesn’t look like it’s been popularly accepted, either way, does it?
In getting back to the original point of this thread; you were coming on a little strong, weren’t you? You haven't shown anything that warrants stating "the subconscious: there is none," as fact, no matter how you use the word.

still this is a assumption which i have been looking for scientific evidence to support the claim but have found none so where is your scientific evidence oneironaut instead of personal belife which this seem to me.
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Yup. Again you’re absolutely right that that’s an assumption, and I think it’s a well-founded assumption based on personally- and socially-subjective evidence (That I’m, of course, open to being proven otherwise). But, you’ve actually got me kind of interested into whether or not there is some evidence for it. I’ll look around, when I got the time, and see what I can find.